I have to say in spite of what I said yesterday that I'm a bit put off that my mileage didn't increase. Given that I have 5 tsps of Baking Soda - in theory I should be developing more HHO. If that's true then what's happening to it? I just went out and double-checked to assure myself that they are no air leaks. There are none. My thoughts go once again to the MAP Enhancer adjustment - I did turn the City dial up from 10 to 12. Now I'm wondering if I should go back to 10 or maybe 8 or 9. Maybe it's that counter intuitive thing again? Another possibility is that I've now squeezed all the HHO value out of two Electrolyzrs that my car can put to use. Given that I hate that possibility - I think that I'll attempt the tuning of the MAP Enhancer - I'm thinking 8, and am open to suggestions.
Also I want to point out that the disconnection of the Oxygen Sensor in my particular car did not cause any of the problems that have been proposed as potential drawbacks. It is possible (and even probable) that this result has as much to do with the original computer configuration of my '97 Honda Civic as with anything else. All I know is that the disconnection of the Sensor has worked wonders for me.
Moving on...
NOTICE: I'm now actively looking to buy a PVC Enhancer and I'd like a recommendation for a vendor to buy from. At this point you all know the kind of person I'm looking for. It's okay to recommend yourself, and it's okay to post whoever you'd like to recommend - including a site address - as a comment to this (or any other post in this blog). The only time that I will ever remove such a post is if I discover through feedback or experience that the vendor does not fully support their products and/or their customers. If I ever need to take such an action I will not point out that they have been removed, nor will I further identify them here - since I do not support tactics of accusation - I will simply make that listing go away.
Thursday, August 28, 2008
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
What is the matter with my thinking? Well I'll tell ya'...
So the results of this fill up show me that I've once again achieved 27.047 MPG and my immediate response is that hey, I've add 5tsp of baking soda to my electrolyzers and I see virtually no gain at all. The problem, however, does not lie with that my mpg has remained the same as it was before, rather the problem is that my expectations have been readjusted by the results that I've already gotten. Let's face it - 27 MPG is awesome! Especially when considering that before w4g I was averaging 21. So what's going on here?
I/We have gotten used to being conditioned by the media. There are expectations built into everything. Think I've got it wrong? Okay so how would you feel if you drove by a gas station in your neighborhood tomorrow morning that was selling gas for $3.25 per gallon. Get real - cars would be lined up around the block, and you could ask each and every driver what they were doing. And, each and every one would tell you that they were buying cheap gas. But we've all now been conditioned by big oil and the interconnected corporate media to have the perception that $3.25 is cheap!. Come on - gas for $3.25 is expensive and we all, at some level, know that.
My point is that I'm doing really well and - still I want more. I've been set up by my own beliefs. The good thing is that at least in this case they are my own beliefs, born out of my personal experiences, rather than those foisted off onto me by advertisers.
When I first started investigating the w4g technology I had my "I'm about to get stung" defenses up. I figured that I was about to get taken for a hundred bucks, and I also figured that it would be worth it if I learned something. To tell the truth though I had an innate feeling that just perhaps it was true - that the most plentiful substance on our planet could be the answer that we're all looking for. Hey just like the rest of you I did my homework and discovered the tale of Stanly Meyers and I've seen those videos - and I convinced myself that at least something was up. Well, as it turns out I didn't get stung at all, and I certainly did learn something. - I learned that I can get 27 MPG IN THE CITY consistently! And that water is indeed the answer. Do I think that I can do better? Of course I do. Can I be satisfied until I move on to get better results?
Oh alright...
By the way did I mention I get 27 MPG in the city?
I/We have gotten used to being conditioned by the media. There are expectations built into everything. Think I've got it wrong? Okay so how would you feel if you drove by a gas station in your neighborhood tomorrow morning that was selling gas for $3.25 per gallon. Get real - cars would be lined up around the block, and you could ask each and every driver what they were doing. And, each and every one would tell you that they were buying cheap gas. But we've all now been conditioned by big oil and the interconnected corporate media to have the perception that $3.25 is cheap!. Come on - gas for $3.25 is expensive and we all, at some level, know that.
My point is that I'm doing really well and - still I want more. I've been set up by my own beliefs. The good thing is that at least in this case they are my own beliefs, born out of my personal experiences, rather than those foisted off onto me by advertisers.
When I first started investigating the w4g technology I had my "I'm about to get stung" defenses up. I figured that I was about to get taken for a hundred bucks, and I also figured that it would be worth it if I learned something. To tell the truth though I had an innate feeling that just perhaps it was true - that the most plentiful substance on our planet could be the answer that we're all looking for. Hey just like the rest of you I did my homework and discovered the tale of Stanly Meyers and I've seen those videos - and I convinced myself that at least something was up. Well, as it turns out I didn't get stung at all, and I certainly did learn something. - I learned that I can get 27 MPG IN THE CITY consistently! And that water is indeed the answer. Do I think that I can do better? Of course I do. Can I be satisfied until I move on to get better results?
Oh alright...
By the way did I mention I get 27 MPG in the city?
Saturday, August 23, 2008
Series Connection - Five Teaspoons - Wire Mesh Holders
I've been asked the question enough that I decided to add this crude drawing of what it means to connect the electrolyzers in series. My neighbor who happens to be a building contractor assured me that these connections would produce a short. He was wrong:-) which is so rare that I got to do a small dance of triumph after I made the connection and ran the car. All kidding aside - this is the way to do it.
As I reported earlier in the week I am now running two Electrolyzer's (in series) with 5 teaspoons of Baking Soda. I wanted to report specifically on that combination: they are running quite cool even after an hour of running around town. The engine got to it's normal hotness but my HHO system stayed plenty cool enough to touch which seems like a very good sign. I've not used enough gas yet to be ready to fill up yet, but I'll get there in the next day or so and will check in then.
Oh yeah, I've added one more thing to my system that I like quite a lot - and that's wire mesh holders for the Electrolyzers. What's great about them is that it make it really easy to lift each unit out of the holder for inspection or to add water. I put my bungee cord around the outside of the mesh containers - which holds everything correctly in place. Someone I spoke with after having done this suggested that the containers could be pierced and a wire could be devised to suspend them when space was an issue - which I think is a pretty good idea...
Now I know that the question is - where did I come by these amazing mesh containers? The answer, my friends, is simple I bought them at Staples for like $6.00 apiece. You will find them in the section for pen and pencil holders. They just happen to be exactly the correct size for what we're doing.
Happy mileage.
As I reported earlier in the week I am now running two Electrolyzer's (in series) with 5 teaspoons of Baking Soda. I wanted to report specifically on that combination: they are running quite cool even after an hour of running around town. The engine got to it's normal hotness but my HHO system stayed plenty cool enough to touch which seems like a very good sign. I've not used enough gas yet to be ready to fill up yet, but I'll get there in the next day or so and will check in then.
Oh yeah, I've added one more thing to my system that I like quite a lot - and that's wire mesh holders for the Electrolyzers. What's great about them is that it make it really easy to lift each unit out of the holder for inspection or to add water. I put my bungee cord around the outside of the mesh containers - which holds everything correctly in place. Someone I spoke with after having done this suggested that the containers could be pierced and a wire could be devised to suspend them when space was an issue - which I think is a pretty good idea...
Now I know that the question is - where did I come by these amazing mesh containers? The answer, my friends, is simple I bought them at Staples for like $6.00 apiece. You will find them in the section for pen and pencil holders. They just happen to be exactly the correct size for what we're doing.
Happy mileage.
Tuesday, August 19, 2008
I'm Back and Ready
Many of you know that I've been out of town for a few days, and that just before I left I changed a couple of things on my set up.
Now the thing is - that I had a really terrific time away with family members (some of whom I'd never met before) and spent time not thinking about any of this (well some of the time anyway) - but the truth is that I've been really anxious to return to continue my experiment. On the advice of a really strong supporter of this blog (Kyle you know who you are:-) I've upped the Baking Soda in my two Electrolyzers from 1 1/2 teaspoons to 5 teaspoons each and have modulated my MAP Enhancer to about 12 on the dial. We shall see what happens.
Something that stands out for me here is that given the calibration on the Enhancer is from 0 to 60 I believe that I was making original adjustment in a rather gross way - that is I was thinking from 30 to 20 to 10 - never for a moment thinking about the use of delicate adjustments which as it turns out is exactly what needs to be done...
Live and learn:-)
Now the thing is - that I had a really terrific time away with family members (some of whom I'd never met before) and spent time not thinking about any of this (well some of the time anyway) - but the truth is that I've been really anxious to return to continue my experiment. On the advice of a really strong supporter of this blog (Kyle you know who you are:-) I've upped the Baking Soda in my two Electrolyzers from 1 1/2 teaspoons to 5 teaspoons each and have modulated my MAP Enhancer to about 12 on the dial. We shall see what happens.
Something that stands out for me here is that given the calibration on the Enhancer is from 0 to 60 I believe that I was making original adjustment in a rather gross way - that is I was thinking from 30 to 20 to 10 - never for a moment thinking about the use of delicate adjustments which as it turns out is exactly what needs to be done...
Live and learn:-)
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Friday, August 8, 2008
The Importance of Sealing the Electrolyzer
Early on when I first began to work with Water4Gas on my car I realized that I had a leak around the electrode fittings and made sure to seal them off. At the time I spoke with several people on the forum about this, and everyone agreed that it was important that there be no leaks at all. Also it came up that there was a problem for everyone concerning the plastic caps being used on the Electrolyzer. Lots of people were reporting that after they were in use for a little while that they would warp a bit and consequently they would leak. Many solutions were offered; some of them were good - such as gaskets being made to order, and Form-a-Gasket (a paste type product available in auto parts stores).
But if you've been following this blog you will know that, for me, simply knowing something is not always acting upon it right off the bat. Really although without much energy on it I did make sure to seal off the Electrolyzers that I've made for myself and some friends, but had no acceptable way to test those seals until a few days ago. Strangely about a week ago I had tested a couple of O-Ring Seals that appeared to do the trick: the test was simple - I took a cap that had not been drilled out, put water in it and turned it over. If it leaked then that was obviously not the seal I was looking for. I had it narrowed down to two - one of which was a bit thinner but fit the cap exactly, but I decided against it in favor of the thicker version that on first look is ever so slightly big. As it turns out my instincts were correct and that is the perfect seal. You see there was a further test that hadn't occurred to me. Because I've had such motivating successes with my gas mileage
I decided to check out the creation of "New Water" which utilizes an Electrolyzer in a very specific way. The trick there is that the Electrolyzer must be sealed off completely or when you place the output line into the separate jar you will get no bubbles at all! The Electrolyzer in this case is being put under positive pressure with the Aquarium Pump instead of a vacuum as it is used on a car - meaning that a little soap solution will allow you to see leaks. Well I started with a brand new cap that I had personally attached all of the fittings to, and had personally sealed using Goop. I got no bubbles. One of my Electrode fittings had a minor leak (these seem to be a problem area). I fixed it but still got no bubbles. I found a small leak around the edge of that brand new cap. I tightened it. Still nothing. I grabbed the thinner version of the O-Ring and put it in the cap and still had a leak. I traded out the thinner version for what I now call the "Perfect O-Ring" and wha'-do-ya' know?
I immediately went out and placed the Perfect O-Rings in the Electrolyzers on my car.
Sealing is everything. Well let's just say that sealing is as equally important as every other detail, and all of the details are really, really important. Have I made myself clear? You cannot have any leaks.
But if you've been following this blog you will know that, for me, simply knowing something is not always acting upon it right off the bat. Really although without much energy on it I did make sure to seal off the Electrolyzers that I've made for myself and some friends, but had no acceptable way to test those seals until a few days ago. Strangely about a week ago I had tested a couple of O-Ring Seals that appeared to do the trick: the test was simple - I took a cap that had not been drilled out, put water in it and turned it over. If it leaked then that was obviously not the seal I was looking for. I had it narrowed down to two - one of which was a bit thinner but fit the cap exactly, but I decided against it in favor of the thicker version that on first look is ever so slightly big. As it turns out my instincts were correct and that is the perfect seal. You see there was a further test that hadn't occurred to me. Because I've had such motivating successes with my gas mileage
I decided to check out the creation of "New Water" which utilizes an Electrolyzer in a very specific way. The trick there is that the Electrolyzer must be sealed off completely or when you place the output line into the separate jar you will get no bubbles at all! The Electrolyzer in this case is being put under positive pressure with the Aquarium Pump instead of a vacuum as it is used on a car - meaning that a little soap solution will allow you to see leaks. Well I started with a brand new cap that I had personally attached all of the fittings to, and had personally sealed using Goop. I got no bubbles. One of my Electrode fittings had a minor leak (these seem to be a problem area). I fixed it but still got no bubbles. I found a small leak around the edge of that brand new cap. I tightened it. Still nothing. I grabbed the thinner version of the O-Ring and put it in the cap and still had a leak. I traded out the thinner version for what I now call the "Perfect O-Ring" and wha'-do-ya' know?
Bubbles:-)
I immediately went out and placed the Perfect O-Rings in the Electrolyzers on my car.
Sealing is everything. Well let's just say that sealing is as equally important as every other detail, and all of the details are really, really important. Have I made myself clear? You cannot have any leaks.
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Placing the Angle Fittings On the Cap
The image on the right is the inside of the cap for the wide mouth jar. Specifically, you're looking at a double vacuum set up where I used lock-washers to hold the angled fittings in place. As you'll see in the video below they're not always easy to put in place, but I found them to be more practical and frankly easier to use than the 1/4 inch nuts as indicated in the book.
UPDATE NOTE: 7:42 PM EDT Aug 10, 2008 - A new friend of mine in Fort Worth just called to tell me that the 1/4 inch lock washer slid right off the elbow! Between us we figured out that the elbow he was using was an irrigation variety purchased from Home Depot. The elbows that I'm using are automotive vacuum fittings and can be found at PepBoys, NAPA and Auto Zone. It's a pretty darned important distinction. Thanks Chris! - j
The video should give you a pretty good idea of how to put the angled fittings into the cap. I've had the question asked quite a few times concerning how this is done, and I finally got it through my head that there was a need for a video. The photo is actually something that I took a couple of weeks ago and has been lost in my computer until now.
It has lately occurred to me that what I take for granted is not necessarily obvious - so I ask in advance for you to be patient. If I've neglected to point out something important just drop me a note or give me a call and I'll see what I can do to fix it properly
UPDATE NOTE: 7:42 PM EDT Aug 10, 2008 - A new friend of mine in Fort Worth just called to tell me that the 1/4 inch lock washer slid right off the elbow! Between us we figured out that the elbow he was using was an irrigation variety purchased from Home Depot. The elbows that I'm using are automotive vacuum fittings and can be found at PepBoys, NAPA and Auto Zone. It's a pretty darned important distinction. Thanks Chris! - j
The video should give you a pretty good idea of how to put the angled fittings into the cap. I've had the question asked quite a few times concerning how this is done, and I finally got it through my head that there was a need for a video. The photo is actually something that I took a couple of weeks ago and has been lost in my computer until now.
It has lately occurred to me that what I take for granted is not necessarily obvious - so I ask in advance for you to be patient. If I've neglected to point out something important just drop me a note or give me a call and I'll see what I can do to fix it properly
NOTE: The O-Ring mentioned in the video is now available.
Very soon I'm going to be making further modifications to my car in the quest for better mileage. Someone early on told me that I should be getting 70MPG on the highway, and I just figured that he was exaggerating - that he was all hot about selling the technology and had become what I call a cheerleader (if you know what I mean), however as you know I'm now getting very close to 40 MPG on the highway - and it was only scant weeks ago that I thought that was impossible. Hey I haven't tried the PVC Enhancer; the Fuel Heater or any gas additives. I've been running with my AC on. I'm not all that careful with my starts and stops, and I sometimes wait for my wife or my kid with the motor running and the AC on at the same time! Get it? I have room to grow and new things to explore. However the AC stays on. I like to be cool:-)
My current w4g set up is as follows:
Two (Single Vacuum Line Style) Electrolyzers connected in series
j
Very soon I'm going to be making further modifications to my car in the quest for better mileage. Someone early on told me that I should be getting 70MPG on the highway, and I just figured that he was exaggerating - that he was all hot about selling the technology and had become what I call a cheerleader (if you know what I mean), however as you know I'm now getting very close to 40 MPG on the highway - and it was only scant weeks ago that I thought that was impossible. Hey I haven't tried the PVC Enhancer; the Fuel Heater or any gas additives. I've been running with my AC on. I'm not all that careful with my starts and stops, and I sometimes wait for my wife or my kid with the motor running and the AC on at the same time! Get it? I have room to grow and new things to explore. However the AC stays on. I like to be cool:-)
My current w4g set up is as follows:
Two (Single Vacuum Line Style) Electrolyzers connected in series
- No line to the Air intake
- No Vacuum Line Check Valves - (with four feet of vacuum line going to the manifold)
- 1 1/4 teaspoon Baking Soda in each
- Each Tower has 1/4 inch notching - (accepting longer wire for more surface area)
- Positive Side wire - 60 inches - quadruple twisted 316 L
- Negative side wire - 60 inches - double twisted 316L
- Pots set at approximately 10 on a scale that runs to 60
- Formerly had a spacer on it which gave some benefit when no other enhancements were in place
- IMPORTANT: Has now been disconnected from the system. - It was found to be in conflict with the MAP Enhancer.
j
Sunday, August 3, 2008
Highway Mileage - or - I Went Kayaking Yesterday...
As a transplant from the western part of the US into the environment of the big city life of New York I've brought a long some habits that do not break easily. The first and foremost of these habits is the use of my car: I will go to a grocery store that I like better because it has a parking lot and wide aisles simply because I have the mobility to do so. I love to drive. (there I said it. Hello - My name is Jon and I love to drive.) Anyway it is the nature of that that type of driving that I've been reporting on for very nearly every post on this blog, but yesterday was different... My wife and I bought inflatable kayaks for one another for our last anniversary and we've been using them locally - locating the "launch sites" around the city that looked on the surface to be interesting. As it turns out the phrase on the surface it the operative term here since pretty much everything under the surface is polluted and disgusting. We made the decision that we no longer wanted to immerse our new toys into disgusting water. You see where I'm going here? We loaded everything including our 16 year old son Josh into the car and headed out to Shelter Island (a place that we visit when we can. Over the past few years we gone out there for sailing and kayaking many times, and we knew in advance that the experience would be idyllic and we were not disappointed. We rented a Kayak for Josh and off we went. It was a perfect day.
I know, I know it sounds really nice, but it gets better! As you know I got darn good mileage the last time out, so naturally I wouldn't miss this opportunity to see what I'd get on the highway.
39.29 MPG
Uh thank you - I don't know what to say - this award means so much to me. I want to thank my producer and director - stand up and take a bow guys... This is for all of the people on the crew and my co-stars Georgina and Josh, and and, and, all of the little people who sacrificed so much so that the rest of us could go on to glory. Yes I know the music's playing, and they want me to go, but I haven't said everything that I...
I know, I know it sounds really nice, but it gets better! As you know I got darn good mileage the last time out, so naturally I wouldn't miss this opportunity to see what I'd get on the highway.
39.29 MPG
Uh thank you - I don't know what to say - this award means so much to me. I want to thank my producer and director - stand up and take a bow guys... This is for all of the people on the crew and my co-stars Georgina and Josh, and and, and, all of the little people who sacrificed so much so that the rest of us could go on to glory. Yes I know the music's playing, and they want me to go, but I haven't said everything that I...
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