I hate to say this, but...

As I've mentioned before I do feel a desire to lie at times like these. I want this to work. When it does work I'm totally jazzed about it. I don't want to report that I'm having a problem. I want to inflate the figures so that this technology will appear to be working better than the results that I am currently experiencing would indicate, but I'm not going to do it! The reality is what it is. As you can see I got approximately 19.6 MPG. Again this is less than I get with no enhancement of any kind. Am I frustrated? YES! Will I give up? No because the fact is that I've seen it work with my own eyes and I expect to see it again. Clearly, I'm doing something wrong and I will get the information that I need to do it right. I happen to be a very persistent person.

In the light of the above I've posted the following in the W4G forum: Ok now I'm totally baffled. I have the MAP Enhancer installed, and can actually hear the difference when switching between "Factory" and "Enhanced." I have a spacer in the upstream Oxygen sensor. I've reduced the amount of baking soda in the electrolyzer to 3/4 tsp. I've made sure that my vacuum lines are as open as possible (cut back the "T's" and reamed them out) - And my mileage is back to 19 MPG! Remember that without any H.H.O. device I was getting 21 MPG... I don't mind being the guinea pig, but I'm actually wasting fuel at a time when that should be considered to be a sin.

I will post the answers here and I will peruse any viable solution and post those results as well. BTW - I filled the tank before hitting the highway yesterday and the round trip was 22.6 miles. At this point I don't know if there was a gain of any kind, but I just thought I'd let you know that that mileage will be included when I post the next results.

UPDATE (a few hours later): I just received this answer to my query: I hope you don't mind me putting in my $0.27 (inflation). I've followed your posts and you see saw mpg's and frankly, I'm (almost) baffled also. The almost is the reason for this letter. That and the fact that I agree about wasting gas should almost be a crime. Of course, some experimentation is justifyable.

So, the thing is, I have posted about the lids on the H.H.O. units not sealing well, and was wondering if you have checked for this problem?
Remember, though they might have sealed when installed, the plastic lid has a tendancy to warp with heat. I use a water-proof silicone, "Form-A-Gasket", as I feel that it is flexible enough to "warp" with the lid.
As you know, excess air leaking into the jar would have the same effect as a leaky vacuum line, causing a loss of performance and lower mpg.

I so appreciate this guy - a really forthcoming person who is willing to share what he knows. So I just checked my electrolyzer for leaks and what do you know I found one! I am going to take care of that but I do wonder just a bit if it's so much more air leaking in than the bubbler delivers (which admittedly isn't much). We shall see. I continue to wait for other possible answers...

And Now For Something Different

The conversation below is a direct Copy/Paste from my email. I figure what the heck. Everyone makes their own decisions based on how they feel anyway. So make your own decisions. Everyone is welcome to comment. Please keep it relevant and relatively clean. - Jon

CHRIS: I just wanted to mention that I read and enjoyed the entire blog that you posted (well most of it lol it is very extensive). I noticed that you have for sale the Plexiglas towers and I was wondering if you build them or are advertising for someone else. I actually manufacture the MAP Sensor Enhancers and sell them on eBay and now I am creating my own website. I was wondering if you would be interested in somehow linking to me or even putting a picture of mine on there or something? Basically I would like to work out some kind of deal where I can sell my MAP Sensor Enhancers on your site. I am not a big corporation just a hometown guy with a passion for electronics. I have been into the HHO stuff for a while and the MAP Sensor Enhancers have helped fund my business. Anyway let me know if you may be interested and regardless I will keep reading your blog.

Thanks, ~Chris

JON: I really do appreciate your kind words, but the fact is that I do not know you, nor can I vouch for the quality of your work or your personal integrity. And I am not in the business of advertising for others. Rather I am attempting to create a base of real information about something that, on the surface anyway, has every appearance of some kind of a scam. You an I know that this is not the case, but if I begin to post ads for others I'm afraid that it might skew my credibility. You do however sound exactly as if you are what you say you are. Meaning that you sound OK to me - and I'd like to support your efforts... Tell you what I will do, for the time being anyway, is this : I am willing to post a copy/paste of both sides of this conversation into the Water4Gas Report. Also, pass me the link to your website and give me permission to post your email address and I will put them up. Send along a photo if you like. What will happen after that is that I'll tag our conversation including your name and site name and invite others to post their experience with you. If that sounds fair just reply to this email with the information. Once I've received your email I will copy everything and post it.

In answer to your question - I personally designed these towers, cut the original prototypes, and have contracted directly with a friend of mine - who is the manufacturer.

Cordially,
Jon

CHRIS: That sounds great to me. I appreciate the help. My website is http://gvec.net/dbitsis/ and it is under construction sort of as I have just started it. It should mostly be there and I will be adding to it everyday. If you personally ever need to buy any MAP sensor enhancers or anything else I will be selling then we can definitely work out a deal. Attached is a picture that you can put somewhere if you would like. Again I thank you for the help as I am trying to get off the ground and off of ebay because it seems unfair the amount of fees they take from me. My name is really Daniel Bitsis, I just go by my middle name Chris since I am a junior.

Thanks, ~Chris

About That Oxygen Sensor Spacer

Yesterday I made a valiant effort to install the thing and only managed to scrape my knuckles badly enough that they still hurt. It turns out that (at least for my car) you need a special wrench to pull the sensor out. My friend (and mechanic), Louie lent me the tool but the results were as stated above. Today I went back over to his shop and asked him to do the task for me - which he did in quick order and refused to accept payment. It took him all of 10 minutes. Experience and having the correct tool - counts.

So as you know I'd already put in the MAP Enhancer. So as a consequence of my failed attempt at installation - I'd already driven 29.4 miles - when the spacer was actually installed. So - I did drive around a bit with that piece of the puzzle missing, but also felt that I was getting a true gain that would show up with the spacer in or not. What happened next was unexpected but it was something that I noticed immediately upon driving out of Louie's shop: my MAP Enhancer needed to be readjusted to a leaner mixture. There was no doubt that something different was going on. It was unmistakable.

My next posting will contain my newest mileage stats, and for the first time they will reflect some highway driving. We intend to take the kayaks out for a spin tomorrow and will need to get to some interesting location - right? At least something more pristine than the East River.

Worst Mileage Ever

That's right this works out to 17.7 MPG. I got 4 miles less per gallon than my car gets all on its own! The reasons are clear and they all come back to me: As I posted earlier I could see that the car was not doing as well as it should - but did I disconnect the negative terminal from the battery for half an hour to let the computer reset again? Nope - I didn't want to deal with having to reset the radio stations and the clock. OMG did that lazy attitude come back to bite me in the behind - especially when I just paid more per gallon than ever. Also, I was waiting for the overwhelming heat to go away so that I could install the MAP Sensor Enhancer, so I didn't go in to fill the tank until that was done - meaning that I paid more and and at the same time had to buy more. Sure I knew the cost of gas was going up - because these days it's always going up. All in all - painful.

On the other hand, I did get the Enhancer installed yesterday. Just to be on the safe side of getting things in order, while I did the installation I did disconnect the battery. There was some mention in the instructions that I got of disconnecting the upstream Oxygen sensor - but I couldn't figure out how to do that other than pulling the electrical line off - which amounts to the same thing. Reason: I want to put the spacer on and I'm waiting until I talk to my mechanic to see if he can tell me how to do that without wrecking it. (I'll report later on that.)

What I did do was get the MAP Enhancer online and working! As you might surmise - I am fairly well proud of myself. Choosing the correct wire seemed a real problem but once I got it - I got it. I can tell that it's doing what it's supposed to do by a very simple test. First I followed the directions for tuning it and found that spot for my car that works best. Then, while the car was sitting at an idle I flicked the setting from Enhanced to Factory. There is a very noticeable difference in the engine. It is unmistakable. I did it right. I expect that that difference will show up the next time I fill up ( and I won't be waiting so long until I do that - because I'm dying to see the results). It's all I can do to keep myself from just going out and driving around, but I'm really not all that willing to demonstrate how stupid I can be:-)

Another thing that I did while I was installing the Enhancer is that I took another look at the "T" connection for the vacuum lines connected to the Electrolyzer - I noticed that one of them appeared to be loose. It was - which certainly may be responsible for the terrible mileage. I just don't know. Still, I took a close look and realized that the Universal T is designed in a way that each end narrows further and further so that it can accept all sizes of lines. What this means is that for my car I had lines that didn't need to be as small at the ends as these were - so I cut them off with wire cutter and reamed them clean with an Exact-o blade. What this should mean is that I will get more vacuum pulling the HHO into the manifold.

I'm realizing more and more that each little thing is important. As always I'm learning at each step and with any luck you will be able to avoid the pitfalls through my missteps.

I'm getting to it...

The fact is that even though I have the equipment I don't have a place in the shade to work in and sad but true the heat is too much to deal with. Out in it for ten minutes and literally felt nauseous! Generally I love the heat, but this is beyond anything. They say that it'll cool down later tonight, so tomorrow looks like the install day. Looked in the package and realized that I'd only ordered 1 Oxygen Sensor Spacer even though I knew I needed 2! Rats. I have the other one on order. I will install the one I have along with putting in the MAP Enhancer. Once I have those on the car I'll go put gas in it and I can tell that I've been wasting gas on this run. Hopefully my mistakes and falters will help the rest of you to avoid those things... Maybe not. Anyway, I'll report again as soon as I get things in order.

And on... and on...

Well, I haven't filled up yet but I can make a pretty good guess that the mileage is not where I want it to be. I do have the MAP Sensor Enhancer in my possession and have spent several days looking at it (it's just my style to do it this way) and rounding up information on how to install it properly. I would have put it on today, but frankly it was just too damned hot out there ( a humid 96 degrees). Maybe tomorrow. Also, I have a couple of Oxygen sensor spacers coming in a day or so (hopefully Monday). Once I've installed everything I'll come back and reveal the mileage from this fill up and will zero out to be ready for the next one... The next one should be the real deal.

By the way I ordered my MAP Enhancer from a guy named Vernon Minton. The link on his name will take you to his website. I wanted to mention that there are people out there who might sell you one of these gadgets for a little less, but this is a guy who went the extra mile to help me to understand how to hook the darned thing up. Certainly a person worth knowing. His work, by the way, has every appearance and feel of the highest quality. Highly recommended.

I'll be back.

Did it Again!

It's a fact! I was able to duplicate my first results which of course lead me to be so persistent in trying to work this technology out. As you can see I traveled 89.4 miles on 3.51 gallons of gas which means I got 25.47 MPG but it's even better than it looks because the last 2 miles or so I was in lots of stand-still traffic in Manhattan and I had the AC on. On top of that the car sat idling (again with the AC on) when some bozo ran into me and tried to drive off. (Everybody's fine) Well, the cops stopped him and I had to fill out all the usual rigmarole papers and blah-blah-blah. Why you ask was the car idling with the AC on? My lovely and beautiful wife Georgina was with me, and she needed it. 'Nuff said?

Anyway this is a real victory. What I want to see now is a consistent gain each and every time. That means that I need to put the MAP sensor on and figure out the oxygen sensor... There is a complexity to this, but I notice that once I get past my hesitation at doing something new - it becomes easy and natural.

If you want to check this technology out for yourself - this is the link

Yes, I do make money when you use the link to buy the books, but I would not encourage you to buy them unless I felt good about the product. Up until now I've felt good about it. Now, I feel great about it.

I encourage anyone to buy the books - buy the parts and begin your own local green revolution. I expect that as time goes on I will figure out how to do even better. I will begin to understand the technology in ways that I've not reached yet. My goals? The same as yours: to be free from Big Oil, to live on a healthy planet, to create a better future for my children.