Sometimes...

...it's just hard to get rolling again after an extended period, but I'll make the attempt to get back on track. As you can imaging I continue to be quite busy in spite of not posting here all that much. I can only suppose that because I do what I do well - people tell their friends.

Anyway, this post has to do with my ongoing search for an installer in NYC. I had high hopes when over the weekend I received an email informing me that someone was indeed taking on that task here in my neck of the woods (although all the woods have been pretty much chopped down or regulated to parks - but never mind that for the moment).

So that you know how difficult such a search can be I've decided to post the original email (with all identifying information of the sender removed) I received and my response to it. I am not posting this to mock anyone or deter anyone from doing this work. Rather I am posting this so that it's clear to everyone that I'm not willing to just wildly promote anyone without testing their mettle. I actually say in the note on the right side of this blog, "I am looking to be able to recommend persons of the highest integrity and expert level knowledge that can fill this needed position." - These are not idle words, and they are not without meaning. It is important to me that I stay clear in my goal to promote water4gas in a way that supports it over time.

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xxxx	Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:25 AM
To: jon@ignitingwater.com
Good morning Jon. I am starting installations of systems in the NYC area thanks xxxx xxxx cell:xxx xxx xxxx xxxx@hotmail.com

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Jon Ellis	Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM
To: xxxxx
Hi xxxx- Really great to hear that you're doing this. Congratulations! Let me offer my blog as a platform for you to let people know about the installations you've done, and the results that your customers are achieving. Naturally, because I do not know you, or have any personal experience of what you're doing I cannot put myself in a place of recommending your service, but I do fully support it and will do what I can to assist you in having your business grow. If you are interested in making use of the platform I'm offering here please respond to this email and I will place our current communication up on the water4gasreport as a post inviting you to comment further as a response to that post. Once you have made your first comment I will then place a link to your ongoing posts - in the section at the top of the page where I currently have the notice "Seeking a Water4Gas Installer in the NYC Area." Sound good? Let me know. Best, Jon Jonathan Ellis Welling Court | Astoria, New York C: 917 617 6870 jon@ignitingwater.com www.ignitingwater.com http://water4gasreport.blogspot.com/

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Well as it stands now on voting day (yes, I voted already) I've not yet heard anything in return. Hopefully he will respond and I will be able to help him a grow a business that will not only save gas for people but will be a continuing service to the environment. I look forward to the opportunity

How to Install the MAP Sensor Enhancer

In the past I have asked the same question and it was answered for me by Mr. Minton. Now a man named Eric has asked the question of me and I promised to post the following information here. I am placing a copy/paste of Mr. Minton's instructions to me - as well as a diagram that I created and he kindly corrected for me: copy/paste begins - There are three wires coming out of the MAP Sensor. One is the Ground, one is the 5 volt Sensor Power, and the third is the MAP Sensor Signal to the Car's computer, the ECM. You cut the third wire and splice each end to the MAP Sensor Enhancer according to your instructions.

There are three wires coming out of the MAP Sensor Enhancer. One is Black; connect this to a wire that is attached to your cars frame or similar location. The other two wires are spliced onto the two ends of your MAP Sensor. The Red wire connects to the MAP Sensor signal wire and the Brown wire connects to the wire going to the ECU. When connecting the Enhancer be sure the dials are set to "0". Once you have it installed, turn the lower switch to "Enhanced" and the upper switch to "City". Then slowly turn the "City" dial until your engine starts to sputter, then turn the dial back 1/4 turn.

The following website http://www.hhodevelopment.com/introsupport.htm will explain everything you need to know about the installation. Also, you will need to add an Oxygen Sensor Extender to your O2 Sensor. If you have duel exhausts, you will need two. Your O2 Sensor is located on your exhaust manifold before the catalytic converter. - copy/paste ends

If anyone else has anything to add or subtract from this please do so as a comment for everyone to see and benefit from.

I just put the new MAP Enhancer in.

The wait is over and I've got the new Enhancer in place. I asked for and received the following instruction on how to set up the City side of the Enhancer: When connecting the Enhancer be sure the dials are set to "0". Once you have it installed, turn the lower switch to "Enhanced" and the upper switch to "City". Then slowly turn the "City" dial until your engine starts to sputter, then turn the dial back 1/4 turn. I expect that this will come in handy for anyone going down this path.

ADDED NEXT DAY: I also asked for and received the following information on how to set the Highway side of the Enhancer: The Highway setting is for speeds above 40 mph. Match the HWY Dial to your City setting. After reaching a speed of 40 mph, switch to your dial to HWY and lean it out until your comfortable with your setting. Be careful and do this slowly. You don't want your engine to die at that speed. Also remember, when you want to pass or go up a steep incline, switch your lower switch to Factory so you will have all the power you need. Good info for all.

As I said in the last post I waited to fill up until I got the new gadget, so here are the results - as you can see I didn't do as badly as I'd expected since this works out to 22.9 MPG - (lets call it 23 why don't we) which is nearly couple of miles-per beyond my norm. This was obtained with the Oxygen Sensor Spacer installed as well as the HHO Generator. I suppose if I'd done the battery trick I would have done even better. It just occurred to me, (as I wrote that last line) that I didn't do it when I did the install - so I promise to go out and do it in a little while so that everything starts from an even base.

Wish me luck since my luck will also be yours...

How to assemble the two parts of the tower.

Several people who've purchased the uniquely designed electrolyzer towers from me - have asked how to put the two pieces together, so I've cooked up a little flick (very short) to show just how it's done. When I have a few moments to produce my next extravaganza - I will also upload a video demonstrating how to properly lay in the electrode wires. I hope that this is helpful.

Anyone interested in purchasing towers can just look over at the the sidebar on the right of this blog to see how to do that. Or just write to me at waterxfuel@gmail.com with: how many you want - the thickness you want (1/8 or 1/4 inch) - and the state you live in.

The Mystery May Well Be Solved

So I did find that air leak but it really seemed to me to be a rather insignificant leak - still I was grasping at straws. I just knew that I had to have done something wrong. Well as it turns out it wasn't me at all. The MAP Enhancer that I bought from Vernon Minton was faulty, and the fact is that if he'd not written to tell me about it I never would have known:

Dear Mr. Ellis

The MAP Enhancer we delivered to you may have one or more defective parts. Please ship this unit back to us at: [Address deleted by Jon]

After removing the unit from your system, be sure to reconnect the MAP Sensor Signal wires. If you have a HHO Generator installed, remove the fuse until you re-install your MAP Enhancer.

After we receive the unit, we will immediately priority mail you a new one and credit your PayPal account for the shipping.

We apologize for this inconvenience. If you have any questions, please use this email address.

Thanks,

Vernon F Minton
Once again Mr. Minton has demonstrated his integrity and I for one appreciate it. It would have taken me forever and a day to figure out that something was wrong with the Enhancer. Sure it 's a hassle but such thing happen with computer and TV and what-all, and I've never once had a note from Sony telling me that there was a problem with something that they sold me and that they wanted to make it right. If I found something wrong it's always been up to me to discover it and then go through the maze of telephone robots to get satisfaction.
Rock on Vernon!

I hate to say this, but...

As I've mentioned before I do feel a desire to lie at times like these. I want this to work. When it does work I'm totally jazzed about it. I don't want to report that I'm having a problem. I want to inflate the figures so that this technology will appear to be working better than the results that I am currently experiencing would indicate, but I'm not going to do it! The reality is what it is. As you can see I got approximately 19.6 MPG. Again this is less than I get with no enhancement of any kind. Am I frustrated? YES! Will I give up? No because the fact is that I've seen it work with my own eyes and I expect to see it again. Clearly, I'm doing something wrong and I will get the information that I need to do it right. I happen to be a very persistent person.

In the light of the above I've posted the following in the W4G forum: Ok now I'm totally baffled. I have the MAP Enhancer installed, and can actually hear the difference when switching between "Factory" and "Enhanced." I have a spacer in the upstream Oxygen sensor. I've reduced the amount of baking soda in the electrolyzer to 3/4 tsp. I've made sure that my vacuum lines are as open as possible (cut back the "T's" and reamed them out) - And my mileage is back to 19 MPG! Remember that without any H.H.O. device I was getting 21 MPG... I don't mind being the guinea pig, but I'm actually wasting fuel at a time when that should be considered to be a sin.

I will post the answers here and I will peruse any viable solution and post those results as well. BTW - I filled the tank before hitting the highway yesterday and the round trip was 22.6 miles. At this point I don't know if there was a gain of any kind, but I just thought I'd let you know that that mileage will be included when I post the next results.

UPDATE (a few hours later): I just received this answer to my query: I hope you don't mind me putting in my $0.27 (inflation). I've followed your posts and you see saw mpg's and frankly, I'm (almost) baffled also. The almost is the reason for this letter. That and the fact that I agree about wasting gas should almost be a crime. Of course, some experimentation is justifyable.

So, the thing is, I have posted about the lids on the H.H.O. units not sealing well, and was wondering if you have checked for this problem?
Remember, though they might have sealed when installed, the plastic lid has a tendancy to warp with heat. I use a water-proof silicone, "Form-A-Gasket", as I feel that it is flexible enough to "warp" with the lid.
As you know, excess air leaking into the jar would have the same effect as a leaky vacuum line, causing a loss of performance and lower mpg.

I so appreciate this guy - a really forthcoming person who is willing to share what he knows. So I just checked my electrolyzer for leaks and what do you know I found one! I am going to take care of that but I do wonder just a bit if it's so much more air leaking in than the bubbler delivers (which admittedly isn't much). We shall see. I continue to wait for other possible answers...

About That Oxygen Sensor Spacer

Yesterday I made a valiant effort to install the thing and only managed to scrape my knuckles badly enough that they still hurt. It turns out that (at least for my car) you need a special wrench to pull the sensor out. My friend (and mechanic), Louie lent me the tool but the results were as stated above. Today I went back over to his shop and asked him to do the task for me - which he did in quick order and refused to accept payment. It took him all of 10 minutes. Experience and having the correct tool - counts.

So as you know I'd already put in the MAP Enhancer. So as a consequence of my failed attempt at installation - I'd already driven 29.4 miles - when the spacer was actually installed. So - I did drive around a bit with that piece of the puzzle missing, but also felt that I was getting a true gain that would show up with the spacer in or not. What happened next was unexpected but it was something that I noticed immediately upon driving out of Louie's shop: my MAP Enhancer needed to be readjusted to a leaner mixture. There was no doubt that something different was going on. It was unmistakable.

My next posting will contain my newest mileage stats, and for the first time they will reflect some highway driving. We intend to take the kayaks out for a spin tomorrow and will need to get to some interesting location - right? At least something more pristine than the East River.

Worst Mileage Ever

That's right this works out to 17.7 MPG. I got 4 miles less per gallon than my car gets all on its own! The reasons are clear and they all come back to me: As I posted earlier I could see that the car was not doing as well as it should - but did I disconnect the negative terminal from the battery for half an hour to let the computer reset again? Nope - I didn't want to deal with having to reset the radio stations and the clock. OMG did that lazy attitude come back to bite me in the behind - especially when I just paid more per gallon than ever. Also, I was waiting for the overwhelming heat to go away so that I could install the MAP Sensor Enhancer, so I didn't go in to fill the tank until that was done - meaning that I paid more and and at the same time had to buy more. Sure I knew the cost of gas was going up - because these days it's always going up. All in all - painful.

On the other hand, I did get the Enhancer installed yesterday. Just to be on the safe side of getting things in order, while I did the installation I did disconnect the battery. There was some mention in the instructions that I got of disconnecting the upstream Oxygen sensor - but I couldn't figure out how to do that other than pulling the electrical line off - which amounts to the same thing. Reason: I want to put the spacer on and I'm waiting until I talk to my mechanic to see if he can tell me how to do that without wrecking it. (I'll report later on that.)

What I did do was get the MAP Enhancer online and working! As you might surmise - I am fairly well proud of myself. Choosing the correct wire seemed a real problem but once I got it - I got it. I can tell that it's doing what it's supposed to do by a very simple test. First I followed the directions for tuning it and found that spot for my car that works best. Then, while the car was sitting at an idle I flicked the setting from Enhanced to Factory. There is a very noticeable difference in the engine. It is unmistakable. I did it right. I expect that that difference will show up the next time I fill up ( and I won't be waiting so long until I do that - because I'm dying to see the results). It's all I can do to keep myself from just going out and driving around, but I'm really not all that willing to demonstrate how stupid I can be:-)

Another thing that I did while I was installing the Enhancer is that I took another look at the "T" connection for the vacuum lines connected to the Electrolyzer - I noticed that one of them appeared to be loose. It was - which certainly may be responsible for the terrible mileage. I just don't know. Still, I took a close look and realized that the Universal T is designed in a way that each end narrows further and further so that it can accept all sizes of lines. What this means is that for my car I had lines that didn't need to be as small at the ends as these were - so I cut them off with wire cutter and reamed them clean with an Exact-o blade. What this should mean is that I will get more vacuum pulling the HHO into the manifold.

I'm realizing more and more that each little thing is important. As always I'm learning at each step and with any luck you will be able to avoid the pitfalls through my missteps.

I'm getting to it...

The fact is that even though I have the equipment I don't have a place in the shade to work in and sad but true the heat is too much to deal with. Out in it for ten minutes and literally felt nauseous! Generally I love the heat, but this is beyond anything. They say that it'll cool down later tonight, so tomorrow looks like the install day. Looked in the package and realized that I'd only ordered 1 Oxygen Sensor Spacer even though I knew I needed 2! Rats. I have the other one on order. I will install the one I have along with putting in the MAP Enhancer. Once I have those on the car I'll go put gas in it and I can tell that I've been wasting gas on this run. Hopefully my mistakes and falters will help the rest of you to avoid those things... Maybe not. Anyway, I'll report again as soon as I get things in order.

And on... and on...

Well, I haven't filled up yet but I can make a pretty good guess that the mileage is not where I want it to be. I do have the MAP Sensor Enhancer in my possession and have spent several days looking at it (it's just my style to do it this way) and rounding up information on how to install it properly. I would have put it on today, but frankly it was just too damned hot out there ( a humid 96 degrees). Maybe tomorrow. Also, I have a couple of Oxygen sensor spacers coming in a day or so (hopefully Monday). Once I've installed everything I'll come back and reveal the mileage from this fill up and will zero out to be ready for the next one... The next one should be the real deal.

By the way I ordered my MAP Enhancer from a guy named Vernon Minton. The link on his name will take you to his website. I wanted to mention that there are people out there who might sell you one of these gadgets for a little less, but this is a guy who went the extra mile to help me to understand how to hook the darned thing up. Certainly a person worth knowing. His work, by the way, has every appearance and feel of the highest quality. Highly recommended.

I'll be back.

Did it Again!

It's a fact! I was able to duplicate my first results which of course lead me to be so persistent in trying to work this technology out. As you can see I traveled 89.4 miles on 3.51 gallons of gas which means I got 25.47 MPG but it's even better than it looks because the last 2 miles or so I was in lots of stand-still traffic in Manhattan and I had the AC on. On top of that the car sat idling (again with the AC on) when some bozo ran into me and tried to drive off. (Everybody's fine) Well, the cops stopped him and I had to fill out all the usual rigmarole papers and blah-blah-blah. Why you ask was the car idling with the AC on? My lovely and beautiful wife Georgina was with me, and she needed it. 'Nuff said?

Anyway this is a real victory. What I want to see now is a consistent gain each and every time. That means that I need to put the MAP sensor on and figure out the oxygen sensor... There is a complexity to this, but I notice that once I get past my hesitation at doing something new - it becomes easy and natural.

If you want to check this technology out for yourself - this is the link

Yes, I do make money when you use the link to buy the books, but I would not encourage you to buy them unless I felt good about the product. Up until now I've felt good about it. Now, I feel great about it.

I encourage anyone to buy the books - buy the parts and begin your own local green revolution. I expect that as time goes on I will figure out how to do even better. I will begin to understand the technology in ways that I've not reached yet. My goals? The same as yours: to be free from Big Oil, to live on a healthy planet, to create a better future for my children.

Parts Are Purchased

So what I've been doing over the last few days: As it turns out the books are very good for a lot of things, but the reality is that while the parts are clearly spelled out there is an appendix that is often referred within the text that is no longer available. Unfortunately it is that appendix that is supposed to tell the reader exactly what the parts are, where to get them and what to expect to pay for them. Those things are to be found throughout the book but the reader has to search them out and note them down for themselves. I wrote to the author about this and he very nicely told me that I needed to look in the book for that info. So I finally broke down and did exactly that. I have now purchased the parts and expect to have them within the next few days. Weather permitting I will make the installation on my car (a '97 Honda Civic) very soon.

I will begin posting my mileage pre-installation shortly. - I will do this over the course of several occasions of filling up, driving and then refilling to document specifics. I will make these measurements as accurate as possible including the type of driving I am doing as well as traffic and weather conditions.

Once I have made the installation I will continue measuring fuel consumption for as many fill-ups as seems appropriate after that - continuing my documentation by posting that information here - good or bad. That's what this is all about. At this point I suppose the sheen is off the apple, and I'm not as excited about all of this as I was to begin with, but that could easily change with experience.

I'll let you know.

Oh yeah - here's that picture of Edison I promised you.