Gone Are The Days

Well sure, the new release of the W4G books is about to come out, and they're taking the technology global. The the books are going to be free now instead of costing $99 or $59 (on sale in the last days...)

So the movement is expanding, and people are getting on-board and understanding that the high cost of driving can at least be reduced. That's good. The technology is getting better, and in many cases one no longer needs a dialed-gadget installed on or under the dashboard (things that made my wife give me that look).

On the other hand there is indeed something missing isn't there? The first and foremost missing item is the cheap "sex sells" logo at the the top of all the W4G site pages. All I can say about that is  - finally! But there's also that missing element of the average person taking a few common ingredients, figuring out how to make or where to buy specific parts, and assemble something unique. This was that something that opened the world of using water to extend mileage. It was suddenly yours to understand and implement. As it turns out the technology has grown to the degree that all you have to do now is buy a kit.  You can still get the books, but the focus has switched to getting something packaged and shiny. It is after all the American way. Why make a hard-boiled egg when you can buy one  pre-boiled and wrapped in plastic? Here's the email I received this morning:

Hi Guys!
The complete set of eBooks is nearing completion and will be uploaded to the servers on Wednesday, March 10th at 12:01 am Pacific Standard Time!
Thank you for your support during this lengthy process. As the revisions were made,many tens of thousands of people continued to sign up and expand our membership!
Now we are poised for the next huge release as promised: The International Showcase of HHO Technology and Global Membership Community!
All this follows the critical March 10th Release Date - Be Ready!
Make sure you are registered for access by signing up or confirming your subscription here: water4gas.com/join.htm
Happy Water-Fuel Motoring!
Ozzie Freedom
Founder, Water4Gas

I don't want anyone to get me wrong on this - I fully support this movement, and I do believe that it is something that is needed in the world, but I miss the connection to personal innovation that was inherent in the early days of a couple of years ago. I also miss that feeling of a grass roots movement, fighting the powers of the oil companies. I miss my part in that process when I identified parts that were difficult to make or come by and created a small business where I sold those few items (at a very small mark up) to others who recognized that what I was doing had as much to do with my personal sense of integrity as with anything else. (I always made sure to provide links and connections to people who were selling similar items to my own - encouraging the expansion of the movement in as many ways as possible.) 

Those days are now past. At some point Ozzie stopped communicating with me on any level but as a possible dollar sign. What has really happened? I suppose that W4G has gone the way of so many great underground movements: it has become a corporate entity that has it's sights set clearly on the bottom line. 

Ah well. Notice that the link in the copy of the email above is a live one. In spite of  the demise of my early close personal connection with W4G - I continue to support any technology that will drive down the costs of driving while cleaning up the environment at the same time. I encourage anyone who is not already involved to sign up if for no other reason but to find out the possibilities. I say, let's get on with it. But I also say this: keep an eye to a future that may well reveal something else that might do the same things - but once again returning the power of making it work to the common person. 

As I've said many times in the past: the goal is not always about making money, rather it is about making this planet a better place Right?

The Way Things Stand Now

As most of you know I've been away from this blog for quite some time. Part of that had to do with the accident, and part of it has to do with my relationship to Water4Gas. Obviously, I continue to sell hard-to-find and hard-to-make W4G parts, and I fully support the technology.

As one of the very few original people marketing my products in the W4G Marketplace I believe that I was of real assistance in helping quite a lot of people get started. The fact is that it was o early on that when I signed up and received the books Ozzie Freedom called me himself to welcome me onboard and let me know that he was around to help if I needed it...

Later on when I found that the W4G Marketplace was operating in a way that made it impossible for newcomers to get in and offer their products I took a stand and helped usher in a better and more fair way of showing product and services for sale. Many of my fellow dealers called to thank me. A couple of those who were at the heart of the problems on the site called to rage at me... Ah well, what I did was right, and I would do it again.

Things changed toward the end of last year and W4G instituted a transformation in the way dealers of parts and systems etc. could be supported. What they did was they sent out a letter encouraging all dealers, including myself, to set up an Affiliate Program so that W4G could then become our affiliate instead of the other way around, and would thus make money when they directed people to us. Well that sounded like a great idea and I got on it immediately. With a lot of work and a fair amount of money I did exactly as they asked and then using the form they sent out I submitted my site and information. They never responded in any way. I sent it again. Again, they did not respond... This happened six times. As recently as a month ago I submitted the information again. They act as if I do not exist, yet still, because I know the value of the technology I continue to support it, I continue to sell W4G parts at IgnitingWater.com, obviously I've not made the blog disappear, and I continue to reach out to W4G in hopes that they will at some point realize that it is a good thing to have me in their corner.

All of this may not be directly related to assisting everyone who wants to to turn their car into something more than the automakers were willing to do, but I believe that it is important to be truthful in all aspects of my experience, and this is absolutely a part of that truth.

Drive on,

Jon

Sometimes...

...it's just hard to get rolling again after an extended period, but I'll make the attempt to get back on track. As you can imaging I continue to be quite busy in spite of not posting here all that much. I can only suppose that because I do what I do well - people tell their friends.

Anyway, this post has to do with my ongoing search for an installer in NYC. I had high hopes when over the weekend I received an email informing me that someone was indeed taking on that task here in my neck of the woods (although all the woods have been pretty much chopped down or regulated to parks - but never mind that for the moment).

So that you know how difficult such a search can be I've decided to post the original email (with all identifying information of the sender removed) I received and my response to it. I am not posting this to mock anyone or deter anyone from doing this work. Rather I am posting this so that it's clear to everyone that I'm not willing to just wildly promote anyone without testing their mettle. I actually say in the note on the right side of this blog, "I am looking to be able to recommend persons of the highest integrity and expert level knowledge that can fill this needed position." - These are not idle words, and they are not without meaning. It is important to me that I stay clear in my goal to promote water4gas in a way that supports it over time.

COPY/PASTE BEGINS

xxxx	Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:25 AM
To: jon@ignitingwater.com
Good morning Jon. I am starting installations of systems in the NYC area thanks xxxx xxxx cell:xxx xxx xxxx xxxx@hotmail.com

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Jon Ellis	Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM
To: xxxxx
Hi xxxx- Really great to hear that you're doing this. Congratulations! Let me offer my blog as a platform for you to let people know about the installations you've done, and the results that your customers are achieving. Naturally, because I do not know you, or have any personal experience of what you're doing I cannot put myself in a place of recommending your service, but I do fully support it and will do what I can to assist you in having your business grow. If you are interested in making use of the platform I'm offering here please respond to this email and I will place our current communication up on the water4gasreport as a post inviting you to comment further as a response to that post. Once you have made your first comment I will then place a link to your ongoing posts - in the section at the top of the page where I currently have the notice "Seeking a Water4Gas Installer in the NYC Area." Sound good? Let me know. Best, Jon Jonathan Ellis Welling Court | Astoria, New York C: 917 617 6870 jon@ignitingwater.com www.ignitingwater.com http://water4gasreport.blogspot.com/

COPY/PASTE ENDS

Well as it stands now on voting day (yes, I voted already) I've not yet heard anything in return. Hopefully he will respond and I will be able to help him a grow a business that will not only save gas for people but will be a continuing service to the environment. I look forward to the opportunity

Spreading the Word

Hi Jon,

I'm working on a similar project at hodworks.com, testing my own car and a couple of friends' cars with the system. Your site's a good resource - thanks for the work.

I added a link to my site - if you wanted to reciprocate that would be cool.

Thanks,

Brad

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You got it Brad - I'm glad you found the info useful. That's what it's all about. I'll set up the link to your site tomorrow. With your permission I'll also post your e-note to me which of course includes the link you've placed there - and I will also place a link to you in the right side-bar. Nice to have the company:-) Best, Jon

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Adding links to the sites of others is a policy that I will continue to keep open to anyone who would like to have that happen. All anyone has to do is ask:-)

Communication About Overheating

Hi Jon, My name is Mike XXX and I purchased some of your products a few weeks ago. I have built one so far and installed it in my 2000 suburban along with a map enhancer purchased on ebay. I been having a problem with overheating and melting the tower, shorting out and blowing fuses. I have lessened the baking soda to 1/8 tsp from 1/4 tsp. Thought may be that could be the problem. And also the water does not last very long. Would you have any suggestions what to do next. Many thanks. Mike XXX

Hi Mike - A couple of things you can look at:

• check to see that you system isn't wired into the alternator in some way
• check to see that you don't have the poles reversed (two strand wire on the Positive side instead of the Negative)

What you're experiencing has to do with too much juice flowing through those wires. I had some similar stuff happen that I ultimately cured by using two Electrolyzers connected in series. - And that series part is all important since it reduced the 12 volts to 6 each across the two units. Once I did that I was able to use as much a 5 teaspoons of Baking Soda per unit with no overheating.

Because this is such a common experience to everyone I've decided to post our conversation to the blog.

Take care Mike and please let me know your results.

Best,

Jon

I Regret to Announce...

...that the good and loyal '97 Honda Civic that has been the transporter of my family, the families of friends and relatives, members of the band and various visitors to our home - is no longer with us. Yesterday morning around 8:30AM EDT I was driving on 23rd street in Long Island City, New York at about 8:30 AM. I stopped a a stop sign at 31st Road and then inched forward craning to see around the van parked to my right on 31st. The street appeared clear. Given my Californian upbringing I also looked to my left to make sure that no one was heading the wrong way on that small one-way street. It was at that moment that a yellow cab traveling some 40 to 50 MPH (in a school zone) tore the front of my car off, and bent the frame. The photo, taken with my cell phone, fairly well shows the aftermath. That black thing that looks like an i-beam in the street is the gadget that would normally trigger the air-bags. Obviously they did not deploy. Still, my seat belt held me snug and safe and I was unhurt, but the car has been declared - "totaled" - and that with like 7/8ths of a tank of gas in it! I wonder where that goes? The cabbie had a bump on the head. He had a fare who simply got out and left the scene. I found three witnesses as to what happened and the insurance companies will work out whatever they need to work out. Thus ends this part of my ongoing experiment, but here are a couple of w4g things worth noting:

1. When the car was hit the motor shut down and when I know that I was unhurt I immediately got out to check on the other driver - forgetting that the Electrolytzers were continuing to churn out HHO. It was not until I had spoken with several people, called 911, and wandered around a bit shook up by the experience that I realizied what I had left undone and went to correct the potential problem - perhaps 7 to 10 minutes from impact. Here's the thing - nothing blew up. So I can now safely say that when an Electrolyzer runs for say 7 minutes the possibility of explosion appears to be nil...
2. Later in the day I went to the lot where the car or what is left of it has been stored - and removed our personal items including the MAP Enhanser and the Electrolyzers and all pertinent parts and found that the mason jars were unscathed. Turns out that these things are really strong - a very good thing to know, right?

My intention is to take the things that I've removed from my car and put them into the car of a neighbor who has expressed interest. I will ask him to keep independent readings of his mileage and I will make it my task to report his findings here. I see this as an opportunity to expand my knowledge by using this technology on another vehicle for the first time.

As for my transportation needs - well my wife and I have decided that what we want is another Honda Civic - but this time we want a Hybrid. (We'll just see if we can get it. I do figure that it's wortha try:-) With w4g we've become used to getting really good mileage, so how could we settle for anything less? I expect that once I feel really secure with my level of expertise I'll install a system in the new car (assuming of course that the computer issues have been solved by then) and we'll see if I can take what is already reported as great mileage in that car and make it even better...

The photo at the bottom here is a photo taken again with my cell phone of what happened to the cab after it hit me: he spun once in the street. My bumper is laying out there and the guy in shorts is standing next to a car the the cab missed in its trajectory before it slammed into the grey car you see pinned between the cab and the telephone pole. Just beyond that is a school. Children were everywhere both on the street and behind the fence. No one was hurt! Miracles never cease... Never.

Buckle up.

I'll see ya soon.

Keeping it Real

The MPG represented by this receipt is 24.82 so let's call it 25 to be fair. The problem is that I should have done much better and I'm not being picky here... some of this was highway driving and admittedly some of it was being trapped in the middle of a traffic jam, but - come on! Once again I'm going back to square one to see what the problem is, and I would think that it darn well has something to do with the computer taking over once again. Maybe it finally figured out that I have the Oxy Sensor out of the system and so I'm suffering with the heretofore predicted dire results. In the meanwhile water4gas is sending out tantalizing emails about the end of such problems. Four days ago I (along with the rest of the w4g community) received a message from Ozzie Freedom. Here's a bit of that message...

copy/paste from ozzie begins:...to let you all know that this is exactly what myself and Water4Gas are making. I know many of you have been waiting for the “panacea” to all on-board computer problems, so I am 100% dedicated to getting this device fine tuned and released for public to use in a matter of weeks.

I am working on a device that can be built and installed at home that will simply take the data from a standard Scan Gauge or similar computer, then use this information to send many signals to the vehicles’ fuel injection system which will in turn bypass the ECU completely. Thus giving us complete control of the fuel-air ratio and allowing the Water4Gas system to do its job, uninterrupted.

I will let you know next week of a website that will follow up on these developments. You can give me your input and help us create this solution.

copy/paste from Ozzie ends

Frankly I can't wait because this other route is something of a pain.-) not like I'm not having a good time though.

The other fly in the ointment at the moment is ongoing promise of the Free MarketPlace being up and running better, stronger and faster - while what we have now is something more difficult to navigate, and really quite daunting for casual computer users. Hopefully this will be solved soon.

One final comment - on comments: I have only had to take action on one posting so far, but please know that unless something is simply offensive I have no intention of deleting any comment of any sort from this site. Within the bounds of the subject at hand - everyone has the right to say what they want to say. I would however like to remind everyone that it's pretty important to stick with sharing from our experience as opposed to what we believe, or think we know, or have heard about from someone else etc... My reasoning is that when we share our experiences we are taking a different route than what has happened on other sites that are full of conflicting information. At least if someone has the experience and someone else has an opposite one - then we can all try to look at the variables that brought about what appears on the surface anyway to be paradoxical. We are all looking for real solutions that the rest of us can duplicate, and I thank everyone who has contributed to the success of this blog by posting what they've gone through in getting the technology to work properly on their individual vehicles.

So Now What?

I have to say in spite of what I said yesterday that I'm a bit put off that my mileage didn't increase. Given that I have 5 tsps of Baking Soda - in theory I should be developing more HHO. If that's true then what's happening to it? I just went out and double-checked to assure myself that they are no air leaks. There are none. My thoughts go once again to the MAP Enhancer adjustment - I did turn the City dial up from 10 to 12. Now I'm wondering if I should go back to 10 or maybe 8 or 9. Maybe it's that counter intuitive thing again? Another possibility is that I've now squeezed all the HHO value out of two Electrolyzrs that my car can put to use. Given that I hate that possibility - I think that I'll attempt the tuning of the MAP Enhancer - I'm thinking 8, and am open to suggestions.

Also I want to point out that the disconnection of the Oxygen Sensor in my particular car did not cause any of the problems that have been proposed as potential drawbacks. It is possible (and even probable) that this result has as much to do with the original computer configuration of my '97 Honda Civic as with anything else. All I know is that the disconnection of the Sensor has worked wonders for me.

Moving on...

NOTICE: I'm now actively looking to buy a PVC Enhancer and I'd like a recommendation for a vendor to buy from. At this point you all know the kind of person I'm looking for. It's okay to recommend yourself, and it's okay to post whoever you'd like to recommend - including a site address - as a comment to this (or any other post in this blog). The only time that I will ever remove such a post is if I discover through feedback or experience that the vendor does not fully support their products and/or their customers. If I ever need to take such an action I will not point out that they have been removed, nor will I further identify them here - since I do not support tactics of accusation - I will simply make that listing go away.

What is the matter with my thinking? Well I'll tell ya'...

So the results of this fill up show me that I've once again achieved 27.047 MPG and my immediate response is that hey, I've add 5tsp of baking soda to my electrolyzers and I see virtually no gain at all. The problem, however, does not lie with that my mpg has remained the same as it was before, rather the problem is that my expectations have been readjusted by the results that I've already gotten. Let's face it - 27 MPG is awesome! Especially when considering that before w4g I was averaging 21. So what's going on here?

I/We have gotten used to being conditioned by the media. There are expectations built into everything. Think I've got it wrong? Okay so how would you feel if you drove by a gas station in your neighborhood tomorrow morning that was selling gas for $3.25 per gallon. Get real - cars would be lined up around the block, and you could ask each and every driver what they were doing. And, each and every one would tell you that they were buying cheap gas. But we've all now been conditioned by big oil and the interconnected corporate media to have the perception that $3.25 is cheap!. Come on - gas for $3.25 is expensive and we all, at some level, know that.

My point is that I'm doing really well and - still I want more. I've been set up by my own beliefs. The good thing is that at least in this case they are my own beliefs, born out of my personal experiences, rather than those foisted off onto me by advertisers.

When I first started investigating the w4g technology I had my "I'm about to get stung" defenses up. I figured that I was about to get taken for a hundred bucks, and I also figured that it would be worth it if I learned something. To tell the truth though I had an innate feeling that just perhaps it was true - that the most plentiful substance on our planet could be the answer that we're all looking for. Hey just like the rest of you I did my homework and discovered the tale of Stanly Meyers and I've seen those videos - and I convinced myself that at least something was up. Well, as it turns out I didn't get stung at all, and I certainly did learn something. - I learned that I can get 27 MPG IN THE CITY consistently! And that water is indeed the answer. Do I think that I can do better? Of course I do. Can I be satisfied until I move on to get better results?

Oh alright...

By the way did I mention I get 27 MPG in the city?

Series Connection - Five Teaspoons - Wire Mesh Holders

I've been asked the question enough that I decided to add this crude drawing of what it means to connect the electrolyzers in series. My neighbor who happens to be a building contractor assured me that these connections would produce a short. He was wrong:-) which is so rare that I got to do a small dance of triumph after I made the connection and ran the car. All kidding aside - this is the way to do it.

As I reported earlier in the week I am now running two Electrolyzer's (in series) with 5 teaspoons of Baking Soda. I wanted to report specifically on that combination: they are running quite cool even after an hour of running around town. The engine got to it's normal hotness but my HHO system stayed plenty cool enough to touch which seems like a very good sign. I've not used enough gas yet to be ready to fill up yet, but I'll get there in the next day or so and will check in then.

Oh yeah, I've added one more thing to my system that I like quite a lot - and that's wire mesh holders for the Electrolyzers. What's great about them is that it make it really easy to lift each unit out of the holder for inspection or to add water. I put my bungee cord around the outside of the mesh containers - which holds everything correctly in place. Someone I spoke with after having done this suggested that the containers could be pierced and a wire could be devised to suspend them when space was an issue - which I think is a pretty good idea...

Now I know that the question is - where did I come by these amazing mesh containers? The answer, my friends, is simple I bought them at Staples for like $6.00 apiece. You will find them in the section for pen and pencil holders. They just happen to be exactly the correct size for what we're doing.

Happy mileage.

I'm Back and Ready

Many of you know that I've been out of town for a few days, and that just before I left I changed a couple of things on my set up.

Now the thing is - that I had a really terrific time away with family members (some of whom I'd never met before) and spent time not thinking about any of this (well some of the time anyway) - but the truth is that I've been really anxious to return to continue my experiment. On the advice of a really strong supporter of this blog (Kyle you know who you are:-) I've upped the Baking Soda in my two Electrolyzers from 1 1/2 teaspoons to 5 teaspoons each and have modulated my MAP Enhancer to about 12 on the dial. We shall see what happens.

Something that stands out for me here is that given the calibration on the Enhancer is from 0 to 60 I believe that I was making original adjustment in a rather gross way - that is I was thinking from 30 to 20 to 10 - never for a moment thinking about the use of delicate adjustments which as it turns out is exactly what needs to be done...

Live and learn:-)

The Importance of Sealing the Electrolyzer

Early on when I first began to work with Water4Gas on my car I realized that I had a leak around the electrode fittings and made sure to seal them off. At the time I spoke with several people on the forum about this, and everyone agreed that it was important that there be no leaks at all. Also it came up that there was a problem for everyone concerning the plastic caps being used on the Electrolyzer. Lots of people were reporting that after they were in use for a little while that they would warp a bit and consequently they would leak. Many solutions were offered; some of them were good - such as gaskets being made to order, and Form-a-Gasket (a paste type product available in auto parts stores).

But if you've been following this blog you will know that, for me, simply knowing something is not always acting upon it right off the bat. Really although without much energy on it I did make sure to seal off the Electrolyzers that I've made for myself and some friends, but had no acceptable way to test those seals until a few days ago. Strangely about a week ago I had tested a couple of O-Ring Seals that appeared to do the trick: the test was simple - I took a cap that had not been drilled out, put water in it and turned it over. If it leaked then that was obviously not the seal I was looking for. I had it narrowed down to two - one of which was a bit thinner but fit the cap exactly, but I decided against it in favor of the thicker version that on first look is ever so slightly big. As it turns out my instincts were correct and that is the perfect seal. You see there was a further test that hadn't occurred to me. Because I've had such motivating successes with my gas mileage
I decided to check out the creation of "New Water" which utilizes an Electrolyzer in a very specific way. The trick there is that the Electrolyzer must be sealed off completely or when you place the output line into the separate jar you will get no bubbles at all! The Electrolyzer in this case is being put under positive pressure with the Aquarium Pump instead of a vacuum as it is used on a car - meaning that a little soap solution will allow you to see leaks. Well I started with a brand new cap that I had personally attached all of the fittings to, and had personally sealed using Goop. I got no bubbles. One of my Electrode fittings had a minor leak (these seem to be a problem area). I fixed it but still got no bubbles. I found a small leak around the edge of that brand new cap. I tightened it. Still nothing. I grabbed the thinner version of the O-Ring and put it in the cap and still had a leak. I traded out the thinner version for what I now call the "Perfect O-Ring" and wha'-do-ya' know?

Bubbles:-)

I immediately went out and placed the Perfect O-Rings in the Electrolyzers on my car.

Sealing is everything. Well let's just say that sealing is as equally important as every other detail, and all of the details are really, really important. Have I made myself clear? You cannot have any leaks.

Placing the Angle Fittings On the Cap

The image on the right is the inside of the cap for the wide mouth jar. Specifically, you're looking at a double vacuum set up where I used lock-washers to hold the angled fittings in place. As you'll see in the video below they're not always easy to put in place, but I found them to be more practical and frankly easier to use than the 1/4 inch nuts as indicated in the book.

UPDATE NOTE: 7:42 PM EDT Aug 10, 2008 - A new friend of mine in Fort Worth just called to tell me that the 1/4 inch lock washer slid right off the elbow! Between us we figured out that the elbow he was using was an irrigation variety purchased from Home Depot. The elbows that I'm using are automotive vacuum fittings and can be found at PepBoys, NAPA and Auto Zone. It's a pretty darned important distinction. Thanks Chris! - j

The video should give you a pretty good idea of how to put the angled fittings into the cap. I've had the question asked quite a few times concerning how this is done, and I finally got it through my head that there was a need for a video. The photo is actually something that I took a couple of weeks ago and has been lost in my computer until now.

It has lately occurred to me that what I take for granted is not necessarily obvious - so I ask in advance for you to be patient. If I've neglected to point out something important just drop me a note or give me a call and I'll see what I can do to fix it properly

NOTE: The O-Ring mentioned in the video is now available.

Very soon I'm going to be making further modifications to my car in the quest for better mileage. Someone early on told me that I should be getting 70MPG on the highway, and I just figured that he was exaggerating - that he was all hot about selling the technology and had become what I call a cheerleader (if you know what I mean), however as you know I'm now getting very close to 40 MPG on the highway - and it was only scant weeks ago that I thought that was impossible. Hey I haven't tried the PVC Enhancer; the Fuel Heater or any gas additives. I've been running with my AC on. I'm not all that careful with my starts and stops, and I sometimes wait for my wife or my kid with the motor running and the AC on at the same time! Get it? I have room to grow and new things to explore. However the AC stays on. I like to be cool:-)

My current w4g set up is as follows:

Two (Single Vacuum Line Style) Electrolyzers connected in series

• No line to the Air intake
• No Vacuum Line Check Valves - (with four feet of vacuum line going to the manifold)
  
• 1 1/4 teaspoon Baking Soda in each
• Each Tower has 1/4 inch notching - (accepting longer wire for more surface area)
  
• Positive Side wire - 60 inches - quadruple twisted 316 L
• Negative side wire - 60 inches - double twisted 316L

MAP Enhancer

• Pots set at approximately 10 on a scale that runs to 60

Oxygen Sensor

• Formerly had a spacer on it which gave some benefit when no other enhancements were in place
  
• IMPORTANT: Has now been disconnected from the system. - It was found to be in conflict with the MAP Enhancer.
  

Later,

j

Highway Mileage - or - I Went Kayaking Yesterday...

As a transplant from the western part of the US into the environment of the big city life of New York I've brought a long some habits that do not break easily. The first and foremost of these habits is the use of my car: I will go to a grocery store that I like better because it has a parking lot and wide aisles simply because I have the mobility to do so. I love to drive. (there I said it. Hello - My name is Jon and I love to drive.) Anyway it is the nature of that that type of driving that I've been reporting on for very nearly every post on this blog, but yesterday was different... My wife and I bought inflatable kayaks for one another for our last anniversary and we've been using them locally - locating the "launch sites" around the city that looked on the surface to be interesting. As it turns out the phrase on the surface it the operative term here since pretty much everything under the surface is polluted and disgusting. We made the decision that we no longer wanted to immerse our new toys into disgusting water. You see where I'm going here? We loaded everything including our 16 year old son Josh into the car and headed out to Shelter Island (a place that we visit when we can. Over the past few years we gone out there for sailing and kayaking many times, and we knew in advance that the experience would be idyllic and we were not disappointed. We rented a Kayak for Josh and off we went. It was a perfect day.

I know, I know it sounds really nice, but it gets better! As you know I got darn good mileage the last time out, so naturally I wouldn't miss this opportunity to see what I'd get on the highway.

39.29 MPG

Uh thank you - I don't know what to say - this award means so much to me. I want to thank my producer and director - stand up and take a bow guys... This is for all of the people on the crew and my co-stars Georgina and Josh, and and, and, all of the little people who sacrificed so much so that the rest of us could go on to glory. Yes I know the music's playing, and they want me to go, but I haven't said everything that I...

That's Impressive! (and Counterintuitive)

The first receipt on the right shows the results of my new set up using two Electrolyzers connected in series with one teaspoon of Baking Soda in each , the Oxygen Sensor out of the system altogether, and the MAP Sensor Enhancer working perfectly - and yet my mileage stinks! (comparatively that is) If you've been following along you will know that 21.89 is pretty much what my car gets without enhancement of any kind. - And some of the mileage is on the highway...

The second receipt however (on the left) shows something very different at 27.41 MPG - it shows my best mileage ever!

Yippie!

So the question is what's different? Well it's something pretty simple and still makes my head hurt to think about it. It's the setting on the MAP Enhancer! - and this is the counterintuitive part: following directions I set the enhancer by leaning it out until the car stalled out and then came back a quarter turn, but that quarter turn in my mind was a quarter of the way back from where the car stopped chugging - but that was wrong. It wasn't enough. After I saw the crummy results I turned the rheostat back even further. To put this in perspective: the car was chugging at 30 - I turned it back to 20 which resulted in zero gain as shown on the Exxon receipt. After that fill up I turned it back to 10 and gained significantly! In other words trying to run too lean resulted in worse mileage.

Now let me be clear that this is not information that did not have in the first place through my interaction with Vernon Minton at HHO Development. He originally sent me instructions that included the following information:

MAXIMIZE BENEFITS
MAXIMIZE BENEFITS
One recent set of road tests (6-16-07) averaged 52.4% better mileage. But, tests from a week earlier on the same car averaged
only 24.5%. Actually, 22% if you discount idling. WHY such great difference?
The secret of the BIG DIFFERENCE between the two test groups: The later and more successful one got MORE THAN DOUBLE the average gain because the MPG was not dialed to near choke point. It was about 1/4 tum closer to factory setting!
Don't overwork the engine by leaning it too much - play around until you find the PERFECT BALANCE point.

Now did I listen to that? - Well I tried but I couldn't bring myself to believe that less is more - however as it turns out - that is exactly the case. The image of the Enhancer above is the one currently in my car. The setting that you are looking at is my current setting which does not mean that it is the setting that your car should be at, but learn by my experience - again the car bucked at the 30 setting - would run at 20 no problem (but without gain in MPG) and really gets the job done at 10... There ya' go.

Just FYI - I've just added a 1/4 teaspoon of Baking Soda to the Electrolyzers. Onward and upward:-)

See ya' next time.

Same Day New Post - Gas Shenanigans

Hey I found the best gas price in town! Uh well no I didn't 'cause once I was in the station I discovered that there was a dollar surcharge because I dared to use my Debit Card to pay. But hey I figured I was already in the place and I wanted to get gas and I know already that I would never go back to a place that would play games like that. I didn't need that much gas anyway... I filled up and paid and because I'm always curious to see how much I'm putting in the tank I couldn't help but notice that the amount of gallons on the receipt was more than the amount shown on the pump. This receipt is a bit hard to read but it does show 3.434 gallons when what I actually got was 3.195 gallons. It's not much but I noticed and when I asked the attendant/owner what was going on he told me that the extra dollar was represented as fuel! Can this be legal? Anyway it's the only reason that I bothered to put this receipt up for viewing since it only partially representing a w4g result. I went about 35 miles using nothing but the Oxygen Spacer after which I installed the new stuff and disconnected the Oxygen Sensor from the system altogether. So 23.09 MPG is the result but that really tells nothing at all, so let's not focus on it... okay? I'll be back in a few days to spill the beans.

On the Road Again

Well yesterday was the big day. I installed the newest of the new MAP Enhancer's and took the opportunity to essentially start all over again with my set up. The first thing I did was to pull the negative cable from the battery so that the computer could reset while I worked on everything. Although I have mentioned that I've been told that removing both cables and touching them together would do the same trick - I figure that since I have the time to use the tried and true "traditional" method - why not?

The phenomenon of the nearly magnetic attraction of this technology became apparent within about 4 minutes of the time I popped the hood - I was joined by three guys, a woman and a Cocker Spaniel from the neighborhood. Everyone wants to know what's going on with the gadgets in my car. Of course this comes along with people who think that they know stuff like how to connect wires. I had to explain several times to one of my pals that I was connecting the two units in series, and that I really meant to do it that way...-)

The image above shows the new installation in action. That little crate thing I put the Electrolyzers in came from the Dollar Store (although it cost like $3.00) and gave them a pretty stable platform to put them on after I took a pair of cutters to it to give me room for the air intake duct leading to my injector. I'm placing another closeup image here since I'm pretty proud of myself at this moment. You'll see lots of indications showing the Positive and Negative terminals since I didn't happen to have any red and black paint around (not that it did me all that much good when I had it before.

Here's a hint about putting the angle fitting(s) in the cap to accept the vacuum line(s): each end of the fitting has a kind of lip or barb around the edge making it very difficult to push through the hole. So take a pair of shears or a wire cutter and cut just above that lip and then push it through the hole. Ozzie's books show that a 1/4 inch nut is twisted down over that inner piece sticking downward through the cap. I found it much better to use a lock washer for the purpose to holding it firmly in place before sealing with Goop.

I must admit that felt exceptionally confident with what I was doing this time around in that I personally built my Electrolyzers. Not only that, but these Electrolyzers contain laser-cut and notched towers that I personally designed, 316L wire that I personally braided and lovingly wrapped on each one, and the laser-cut caps topping everything off were those that I produced as well. Each item attached to the cap was one that I personally attached and sealed with Goop. What I am saying here is that I know that these are exactly what they need to be. I am not relying on anyone else for the physical condition of these Electrolyzers. Why is that important to me? Have you read the earlier posts in this blog? Everything is important. Each small component, each procedure, each element is meant to be perfect in its own way. Does this mean that I can't goof? Again, I ask if you've read earlier posts:-) The thing is that I do learn from my mistakes. The last one cost me $60.00 and it was worth every nickel. If it had cost me $6000.00 I must admit I might feel differently. Nevertheless my lesson has been learned and I know to be careful with each and every part. The information in the Water4Gas books is meant to be our guide, but I'm pretty sure that I can't be the only one who thinks that I can go along and easily do what's been described, but doing it my own way (an example of this is that I tried other glues in place of Goop. Just FYI Gorilla Glue and Silicone do not work properly as sealers) and expect to get the described results. It's in my nature to explore the boundaries and expand beyond what I already know. The truth however is that it's important for me to know the basics before I move ahead with my brilliant ideas. Ozzie has provided an amazing blueprint for us, but that's a jumping off point and we all know it. My issue generally stems from thinking that I know everything before I really know it. Still all in all I'm having a blast. The progress I've made in understanding how my car works and what certain things are supposed to do is remarkable in just two months - especially considering that when I put my first Electrolyzer in the car I had to as my mechanic what the vacuum lines looked like. So far so good.

I'm going to head out and fill the tank so that I can get an accurate measurement on the results.

Life is Indeed Strange

As you know I've been going through every possible craziness as I move along in my quest for mileage. At this point I have a pretty clear understanding that my MAP Enhancer on the Highway setting somehow had a dead short. I also want to make this clear. I sent off a note to Mr. Minton, the man I purchased my Enhancer from and within an hour or so he called me on the phone. Again he demonstrates his integrity, and is sending a replacement. He will also pull the device I've been using apart so that he can find out what went wrong. As far as I can tell this could have happened to anyone. Nevertheless it's happened to me, and in the interests of telling everything - I feel obligated to tell this as well. To put this in perspective I recently sold 100 of the towers to one of my customers in North Carolina. I received a call from her and she told me that 34 of the towers would not go together without splitting. I immediately sent out replacements. She told me that it seemed as though some of the tower pieces were thicker than others and I wondered aloud how that could possibly be. Well as it turns out she was right! and for the very first time ever I was wrong:-) Can you believe it? - Seriously though, as it happens, when very large shipments of sheet Plexiglas come in they can be ever so slightly different in thickness, and that is exactly what happened - the towers that she received were partially made from one run of the sheets, and the rest from another. The point it is that weird things happen, and all we can do is make sure that no one suffers from those occurrences. I took care of the problem for her and Vernon is taking care of the problem for me. When we come together as people of honor there is no fault, no blame - only solutions.

Now about that receipt you're looking at above - I got 23.37 MPG without the Electrolyzer or the MAP Enhancer working! The only thing I had going for me was the Oxygen Sensor Spacer. The gain I've been getting for the last several fill-ups apparently is from that device alone. What a surprise that turns out to be - especially since, as I mentioned in an earlier post, the next move I intend to make once I install the new MAP Enhancer - is to remove the sensor from the system altogether - to allow the Enhancer to control the amount of gas being used. I still intend to do that and let the results fall where they may. We shall see. We shall see.

Attaching An Electrode Wrapped Tower to the Cap

I've been asked several times to post this video, so here it is.

I hope that it helps.

Again I want to reiterate I am not the expert in any of this. I am just a person learning about a new technology like the rest of you. Still, while I may not know everything that there is to know about HHO and Water4Gas technology it just happens that I am very knowledgeable about how things go together, how to solve difficult spacial problems, and how to make things happen in a logical sequence. One of my previous occupations was as a master art-mold maker. The trick in that task is to know how to look at an original work made of wood, clay, wax or whatever - revolve it in space three dimensionally in one's mind - imagine the desired end result of a finished work of bronze art - and then begin creation of the mold with that final image in mind. I guess that I just know how to make things work.

A Frank Analysis of The Problem

As it happens I have somehow been elected to represent all of those people who charge forward and get things wrong, and make mistakes, and have a need to find out how to come back from barriers that on the surface - point to failure, but on re-examination point to a greater wealth of knowledge than could be gained without the problem... (Unless of course someone else has done it for you:-) Anyway, I now know that the problem that I experienced the other day had nothing to do with the new MAP Enhancer. In that light I've created another of my little videos that shows pretty clearly what I did, where I went wrong, and obviously - what not to do.

Even though I now know the source of the problem I've not completely solved everything related to it. I know that the short in the system originally took place in the Electrolyzer, and I've made the correction by replacing it altogether, however somehow that short affected my Air Conditioner, and as I investigated further before finding the problem - has now caused additional problems with my radio. - I've scheduled an appointment with my mechanic tomorrow morning. Hopefully, it's not huge -but really I have no idea on what his findings will be. (I know that you all have your fingers crossed for me.) With any luck it will cost me enough to make me overly cautious in the future, but not so much that I'm freaking out.

BTW - you heard it right in the video - the melting temperature of Plexiglas is 270 F.

Also I want to mention one other thing here: one of my customers, a man I would now consider as a friend, Alan was doing a bit of experimenting one day last week, and came across something very important. He attached an Electrolyzer to a 12 volt battery, and fortunately for everyone involved - left it in the corner of his barn, and walked away from it intending to leave it on all night to see if it would continue to pump out HHO. When he returned a few hours later he discovered that it had BLOWN UP! - Never, never, never connect the Electrolyzer without having the generated gas drawn off by a vacuum. Alan made this mistake for the rest of us. We owe him our sincere thanks. Please don't duplicate it. Stay safe.

I spoke with someone yesterday who is very knowledgeable in this area, and he mentioned something else very important to all of us, and that is that right now this community is sort of flying under the radar, but if it ever occurs that there is a really bad accident involving HHO and water4gas - that flight will be over. I encourage everyone to be extremely careful - don't play with HHO gas anymore than you would play with a live high voltage electrical line.

'Nuff said, right? Now, let's go change the world.