Showing posts with label w4g installations. Show all posts
Showing posts with label w4g installations. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 9, 2010

Gone Are The Days

Well sure, the new release of the W4G books is about to come out, and they're taking the technology global. The the books are going to be free now instead of costing $99 or $59 (on sale in the last days...)

So the movement is expanding, and people are getting on-board and understanding that the high cost of driving can at least be reduced. That's good. The technology is getting better, and in many cases one no longer needs a dialed-gadget installed on or under the dashboard (things that made my wife give me that look).

On the other hand there is indeed something missing isn't there? The first and foremost missing item is the cheap "sex sells" logo at the the top of all the W4G site pages. All I can say about that is  - finally! But there's also that missing element of the average person taking a few common ingredients, figuring out how to make or where to buy specific parts, and assemble something unique. This was that something that opened the world of using water to extend mileage. It was suddenly yours to understand and implement. As it turns out the technology has grown to the degree that all you have to do now is buy a kit.  You can still get the books, but the focus has switched to getting something packaged and shiny. It is after all the American way. Why make a hard-boiled egg when you can buy one  pre-boiled and wrapped in plastic? Here's the email I received this morning:

Hi Guys!
The complete set of eBooks is nearing completion and will be uploaded to the servers on Wednesday, March 10th at 12:01 am Pacific Standard Time!
Thank you for your support during this lengthy process. As the revisions were made,many tens of thousands of people continued to sign up and expand our membership!
Now we are poised for the next huge release as promised: The International Showcase of HHO Technology and Global Membership Community!
All this follows the critical March 10th Release Date - Be Ready!
Make sure you are registered for access by signing up or confirming your subscription here: water4gas.com/join.htm
Happy Water-Fuel Motoring!
Ozzie Freedom
Founder, Water4Gas

I don't want anyone to get me wrong on this - I fully support this movement, and I do believe that it is something that is needed in the world, but I miss the connection to personal innovation that was inherent in the early days of a couple of years ago. I also miss that feeling of a grass roots movement, fighting the powers of the oil companies. I miss my part in that process when I identified parts that were difficult to make or come by and created a small business where I sold those few items (at a very small mark up) to others who recognized that what I was doing had as much to do with my personal sense of integrity as with anything else. (I always made sure to provide links and connections to people who were selling similar items to my own - encouraging the expansion of the movement in as many ways as possible.) 

Those days are now past. At some point Ozzie stopped communicating with me on any level but as a possible dollar sign. What has really happened? I suppose that W4G has gone the way of so many great underground movements: it has become a corporate entity that has it's sights set clearly on the bottom line. 

Ah well. Notice that the link in the copy of the email above is a live one. In spite of  the demise of my early close personal connection with W4G - I continue to support any technology that will drive down the costs of driving while cleaning up the environment at the same time. I encourage anyone who is not already involved to sign up if for no other reason but to find out the possibilities. I say, let's get on with it. But I also say this: keep an eye to a future that may well reveal something else that might do the same things - but once again returning the power of making it work to the common person. 

As I've said many times in the past: the goal is not always about making money, rather it is about making this planet a better place Right?

Tuesday, November 4, 2008

Sometimes...

...it's just hard to get rolling again after an extended period, but I'll make the attempt to get back on track. As you can imaging I continue to be quite busy in spite of not posting here all that much. I can only suppose that because I do what I do well - people tell their friends.

Anyway, this post has to do with my ongoing search for an installer in NYC. I had high hopes when over the weekend I received an email informing me that someone was indeed taking on that task here in my neck of the woods (although all the woods have been pretty much chopped down or regulated to parks - but never mind that for the moment).

So that you know how difficult such a search can be I've decided to post the original email (with all identifying information of the sender removed) I received and my response to it. I am not posting this to mock anyone or deter anyone from doing this work. Rather I am posting this so that it's clear to everyone that I'm not willing to just wildly promote anyone without testing their mettle. I actually say in the note on the right side of this blog, "I am looking to be able to recommend persons of the highest integrity and expert level knowledge that can fill this needed position." - These are not idle words, and they are not without meaning. It is important to me that I stay clear in my goal to promote water4gas in a way that supports it over time.

COPY/PASTE BEGINS
xxxx Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:25 AM

To: jon@ignitingwater.com

Good morning Jon.
I am starting installations of systems in the NYC area
thanks
xxxx xxxx
cell:xxx xxx xxxx
xxxx@hotmail.com

Jon Ellis Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM

To: xxxxx
Hi xxxx- Really great to hear that you're doing this. Congratulations!

Let me offer my blog as a platform for you to let people know about the installations you've done, and the results that your customers are achieving. Naturally, because I do not know you, or have any personal experience of what you're doing I cannot put myself in a place of recommending your service, but I do fully support it and will do what I can to assist you in having your business grow.

If you are interested in making use of the platform I'm offering here please respond to this email and I will place our current communication up on the water4gasreport as a post inviting you to comment further as a response to that post. Once you have made your first comment I will then place a link to your ongoing posts - in the section at the top of the page where I currently have the notice "Seeking a Water4Gas Installer in the NYC Area."

Sound good? Let me know.

Best,

Jon

Jonathan Ellis
Welling Court | Astoria, New York
C: 917 617 6870
jon@ignitingwater.com
www.ignitingwater.com
http://water4gasreport.blogspot.com/
COPY/PASTE ENDS

Well as it stands now on voting day (yes, I voted already) I've not yet heard anything in return. Hopefully he will respond and I will be able to help him a grow a business that will not only save gas for people but will be a continuing service to the environment. I look forward to the opportunity

Wednesday, September 10, 2008

Communication About Overheating

Hi Jon, My name is Mike XXX and I purchased some of your products a few weeks ago. I have built one so far and installed it in my 2000 suburban along with a map enhancer purchased on ebay. I been having a problem with overheating and melting the tower, shorting out and blowing fuses. I have lessened the baking soda to 1/8 tsp from 1/4 tsp. Thought may be that could be the problem. And also the water does not last very long. Would you have any suggestions what to do next. Many thanks. Mike XXX

Hi Mike - A couple of things you can look at:
  • check to see that you system isn't wired into the alternator in some way
  • check to see that you don't have the poles reversed (two strand wire on the Positive side instead of the Negative)
What you're experiencing has to do with too much juice flowing through those wires. I had some similar stuff happen that I ultimately cured by using two Electrolyzers connected in series. - And that series part is all important since it reduced the 12 volts to 6 each across the two units. Once I did that I was able to use as much a 5 teaspoons of Baking Soda per unit with no overheating.

Because this is such a common experience to everyone I've decided to post our conversation to the blog.

Take care Mike and please let me know your results.

Best,

Jon

Saturday, August 23, 2008

Series Connection - Five Teaspoons - Wire Mesh Holders

I've been asked the question enough that I decided to add this crude drawing of what it means to connect the electrolyzers in series. My neighbor who happens to be a building contractor assured me that these connections would produce a short. He was wrong:-) which is so rare that I got to do a small dance of triumph after I made the connection and ran the car. All kidding aside - this is the way to do it.

As I reported earlier in the week I am now running two Electrolyzer's (in series) with 5 teaspoons of Baking Soda. I wanted to report specifically on that combination: they are running quite cool even after an hour of running around town. The engine got to it's normal hotness but my HHO system stayed plenty cool enough to touch which seems like a very good sign. I've not used enough gas yet to be ready to fill up yet, but I'll get there in the next day or so and will check in then.

Oh yeah, I've added one more thing to my system that I like quite a lot - and that's wire mesh holders for the Electrolyzers. What's great about them is that it make it really easy to lift each unit out of the holder for inspection or to add water. I put my bungee cord around the outside of the mesh containers - which holds everything correctly in place. Someone I spoke with after having done this suggested that the containers could be pierced and a wire could be devised to suspend them when space was an issue - which I think is a pretty good idea...

Now I know that the question is - where did I come by these amazing mesh containers? The answer, my friends, is simple I bought them at Staples for like $6.00 apiece. You will find them in the section for pen and pencil holders. They just happen to be exactly the correct size for what we're doing.

Happy mileage.

Friday, August 8, 2008

The Importance of Sealing the Electrolyzer

Early on when I first began to work with Water4Gas on my car I realized that I had a leak around the electrode fittings and made sure to seal them off. At the time I spoke with several people on the forum about this, and everyone agreed that it was important that there be no leaks at all. Also it came up that there was a problem for everyone concerning the plastic caps being used on the Electrolyzer. Lots of people were reporting that after they were in use for a little while that they would warp a bit and consequently they would leak. Many solutions were offered; some of them were good - such as gaskets being made to order, and Form-a-Gasket (a paste type product available in auto parts stores).

But if you've been following this blog you will know that, for me, simply knowing something is not always acting upon it right off the bat. Really although without much energy on it I did make sure to seal off the Electrolyzers that I've made for myself and some friends, but had no acceptable way to test those seals until a few days ago. Strangely about a week ago I had tested a couple of O-Ring Seals that appeared to do the trick: the test was simple - I took a cap that had not been drilled out, put water in it and turned it over. If it leaked then that was obviously not the seal I was looking for. I had it narrowed down to two - one of which was a bit thinner but fit the cap exactly, but I decided against it in favor of the thicker version that on first look is ever so slightly big. As it turns out my instincts were correct and that is the perfect seal. You see there was a further test that hadn't occurred to me. Because I've had such motivating successes with my gas mileage
I decided to check out the creation of "New Water" which utilizes an Electrolyzer in a very specific way. The trick there is that the Electrolyzer must be sealed off completely or when you place the output line into the separate jar you will get no bubbles at all! The Electrolyzer in this case is being put under positive pressure with the Aquarium Pump instead of a vacuum as it is used on a car - meaning that a little soap solution will allow you to see leaks. Well I started with a brand new cap that I had personally attached all of the fittings to, and had personally sealed using Goop. I got no bubbles. One of my Electrode fittings had a minor leak (these seem to be a problem area). I fixed it but still got no bubbles. I found a small leak around the edge of that brand new cap. I tightened it. Still nothing. I grabbed the thinner version of the O-Ring and put it in the cap and still had a leak. I traded out the thinner version for what I now call the "Perfect O-Ring" and wha'-do-ya' know?

Bubbles:-)

I immediately went out and placed the Perfect O-Rings in the Electrolyzers on my car.

Sealing is everything. Well let's just say that sealing is as equally important as every other detail, and all of the details are really, really important. Have I made myself clear? You cannot have any leaks.

Tuesday, July 29, 2008

That's Impressive! (and Counterintuitive)

The first receipt on the right shows the results of my new set up using two Electrolyzers connected in series with one teaspoon of Baking Soda in each , the Oxygen Sensor out of the system altogether, and the MAP Sensor Enhancer working perfectly - and yet my mileage stinks! (comparatively that is) If you've been following along you will know that 21.89 is pretty much what my car gets without enhancement of any kind. - And some of the mileage is on the highway...

The second receipt however (on the left) shows something very different at 27.41 MPG - it shows my best mileage ever!
Yippie!

So the question is what's different? Well it's something pretty simple and still makes my head hurt to think about it. It's the setting on the MAP Enhancer! - and this is the counterintuitive part: following directions I set the enhancer by leaning it out until the car stalled out and then came back a quarter turn, but that quarter turn in my mind was a quarter of the way back from where the car stopped chugging - but that was wrong. It wasn't enough. After I saw the crummy results I turned the rheostat back even further. To put this in perspective: the car was chugging at 30 - I turned it back to 20 which resulted in zero gain as shown on the Exxon receipt. After that fill up I turned it back to 10 and gained significantly! In other words trying to run too lean resulted in worse mileage.

Now let me be clear that this is not information that did not have in the first place through my interaction with Vernon Minton at HHO Development. He originally sent me instructions that included the following information:

MAXIMIZE BENEFITS
MAXIMIZE BENEFITS
One recent set of road tests (6-16-07) averaged 52.4% better mileage. But, tests from a week earlier on the same car averaged
only 24.5%. Actually, 22% if you discount idling. WHY such great difference?
The secret of the BIG DIFFERENCE between the two test groups: The later and more successful one got MORE THAN DOUBLE the average gain because the MPG was not dialed to near choke point. It was about 1/4 tum closer to factory setting!
Don't overwork the engine by leaning it too much - play around until you find the PERFECT BALANCE point.

Now did I listen to that? - Well I tried but I couldn't bring myself to believe that less is more - however as it turns out - that is exactly the case. The image of the Enhancer above is the one currently in my car. The setting that you are looking at is my current setting which does not mean that it is the setting that your car should be at, but learn by my experience - again the car bucked at the 30 setting - would run at 20 no problem (but without gain in MPG) and really gets the job done at 10... There ya' go.

Just FYI - I've just added a 1/4 teaspoon of Baking Soda to the Electrolyzers. Onward and upward:-)

See ya' next time.

Thursday, July 24, 2008

Same Day New Post - Gas Shenanigans

Hey I found the best gas price in town! Uh well no I didn't 'cause once I was in the station I discovered that there was a dollar surcharge because I dared to use my Debit Card to pay. But hey I figured I was already in the place and I wanted to get gas and I know already that I would never go back to a place that would play games like that. I didn't need that much gas anyway... I filled up and paid and because I'm always curious to see how much I'm putting in the tank I couldn't help but notice that the amount of gallons on the receipt was more than the amount shown on the pump. This receipt is a bit hard to read but it does show 3.434 gallons when what I actually got was 3.195 gallons. It's not much but I noticed and when I asked the attendant/owner what was going on he told me that the extra dollar was represented as fuel! Can this be legal? Anyway it's the only reason that I bothered to put this receipt up for viewing since it only partially representing a w4g result. I went about 35 miles using nothing but the Oxygen Spacer after which I installed the new stuff and disconnected the Oxygen Sensor from the system altogether. So 23.09 MPG is the result but that really tells nothing at all, so let's not focus on it... okay? I'll be back in a few days to spill the beans.

Sunday, July 13, 2008

A Frank Analysis of The Problem

As it happens I have somehow been elected to represent all of those people who charge forward and get things wrong, and make mistakes, and have a need to find out how to come back from barriers that on the surface - point to failure, but on re-examination point to a greater wealth of knowledge than could be gained without the problem... (Unless of course someone else has done it for you:-) Anyway, I now know that the problem that I experienced the other day had nothing to do with the new MAP Enhancer. In that light I've created another of my little videos that shows pretty clearly what I did, where I went wrong, and obviously - what not to do.

Even though I now know the source of the problem I've not completely solved everything related to it. I know that the short in the system originally took place in the Electrolyzer, and I've made the correction by replacing it altogether, however somehow that short affected my Air Conditioner, and as I investigated further before finding the problem - has now caused additional problems with my radio. - I've scheduled an appointment with my mechanic tomorrow morning. Hopefully, it's not huge -but really I have no idea on what his findings will be. (I know that you all have your fingers crossed for me.) With any luck it will cost me enough to make me overly cautious in the future, but not so much that I'm freaking out.

BTW - you heard it right in the video - the melting temperature of Plexiglas is 270 F.

Also I want to mention one other thing here: one of my customers, a man I would now consider as a friend, Alan was doing a bit of experimenting one day last week, and came across something very important. He attached an Electrolyzer to a 12 volt battery, and fortunately for everyone involved - left it in the corner of his barn, and walked away from it intending to leave it on all night to see if it would continue to pump out HHO. When he returned a few hours later he discovered that it had BLOWN UP! - Never, never, never connect the Electrolyzer without having the generated gas drawn off by a vacuum. Alan made this mistake for the rest of us. We owe him our sincere thanks. Please don't duplicate it. Stay safe.

I spoke with someone yesterday who is very knowledgeable in this area, and he mentioned something else very important to all of us, and that is that right now this community is sort of flying under the radar, but if it ever occurs that there is a really bad accident involving HHO and water4gas - that flight will be over. I encourage everyone to be extremely careful - don't play with HHO gas anymore than you would play with a live high voltage electrical line.

'Nuff said, right? Now, let's go change the world.

Thursday, July 10, 2008

Now that I've Achieved Consistancy I Also Have a New Problem

As much as I'd like to deliver good news all of the time it's jut not possible...
I have another issue that came up for me this afternoon and I'm trying to figure it out, and see how it all relates. Here's the scenario: Georgina and I have driven into Manhattan to deliver some things to a friend who happens to be a shut-in recovering from an operation. It's hot and muggy. The AC is on. So anyway I get on the FDR Drive and switch the MAP Enhancer over from "City" to "Highway" at which point the AC dies as do the cooling fans behind the radiator (which I do not know until I get to where we're going and the car begins to overheat sitting at a traffic light. My wife goes in and delivers the packages and I try to figure out what's going on. I let the car cool off and add some distilled water (which I happen to have in the trunk at all times). I see that the fuse to the AC has blown and I happen to have a replacement which I put in. Then I see that the Electrolyzer does not come on when I turn the key in the ignition. I check it's fuse and it is not blown. At the moment it's looking like the AC relay may be dead, but I cannot figure out the cause. Is it all unrelated stuff, or have I done something really wrong? At the moment I simply do not know. The most recent adjustments that I've made to the system are these: I added another half teaspoon of Baking Soda to the water bring my content up to 2 teaspoons; the new Electrolyzer tower is notched every quarter inch and the windings have increased accordingly; I removed the check valve from the vacuum line going to the manifold, and I plugged the other vacuum line with a bolt so that it no longer connects to the air filter housing. That's it - the only thing electrical in all of that - is the Baking Soda. Seems like I'm grasping at straws. Is it possible that even though the original MAP Sensor has been replaced with a new one - could the new one be equally goofed but in a different way? Dunno. I'm going to copy/paste all of the above onto the w4g forum and see if anyone of the mucky-mucks can figure out what's up. Once I have an answer I will post back here.

On another subject I want to pass along something that was kindly passed to me by a friend of mine - Henry in Taiwan (hello Henry:-), I think that nearly everyone will find it very interesting. It on the subject of Oxygen Sensors... copy/paste begins Henry,
There are a few things you can do with the O2 sensors once you've put in the DEMSE. Remember, only mess with the O2 sensor(s) before the catalytic converter, not the one(s) after.

1. Leave the O2 sensors alone. This will probably not work. Usually, when faced with an 'enhanced' signal from the MAP sensor, the ECU will apparently ignore it and only look at the O2 sensor input.

2. Try one of the O2 sensor enhancers -
a) foil wrapping - I have not seen this work for many people.
b) O2 extenders/oxyisolators - I also have not seen this work for many.
c) EFIE - you can adjust the O2 sensor output. This is rather pricey, but works.

3. Disconnect the O2 sensors before the catalytic converter. This is what Ozzie does. Make sure you wrap the disconnected plugs so they don't get damaged. This is the way to go, if you're going to have a MAP sensor enhancer. The ECU will not be able to look at the O2 sensor signal, because there isn't one - it is forced to take the ECU signal. Your Check Engine light will go on, but you'll be prepared for it. Just ignore it.

Happy Mileage!
JJ Ferretti
Tech Support
copy/paste ends

Now I gotta say - I have the spacer on my sensor and I cannot really tell if it's doing anything or not - but I am opting for the Number three solution. If it's good enough for Ozzie - it's good enough for me.


Tuesday, July 8, 2008

New Video - How to Wrap the Wires



So many of you have sent me messages of thanks for the other video on the same subject, so I do understand that it was helpful, and I'm really happy about that. I do however think that this one should be all the more useful since, thanks to my son Josh, my hands remain on the screen at all times.-)

Obviously this one is concentrated on wrapping the tower with 1/4 inch notching, but the principle remains the same for any one of them.

I've also realized that I might make things easier if I include links here to the other two videos that relate to assembling the two parts of the tower and the original one on wrapping the electrode wires onto a tower...

Monday, July 7, 2008

Latest Mileage and Other Interesting Stuff

Well it's been a busy week and I'm finally getting around to updating my progress, and I want to state for the record - that it is indeed progress. Oh sure I've been boohooing about how I want consistency and high numbers and it finally got through to me that, at this point, I am getting the consistency part of the equation - 23.3 is a consistent gain of 2 extra miles that I'm getting from each gallon of gas. Correct - it's not huge, but it is after all there.

So what's missing? I have the MAP Enhancer doing it's job; the Oxygen Spacer is in place, a new Electrolyzer has been added. I've been told that adding more baking soda is the next step to take (short of putting in a second Electrolyzer) in getting more HHO from my single unit. Other people warn me that if I use too much baking soda I might melt the tower. - To address that issue at least: one thing is easy to look up online, and that is the melting temperature of Plexiglas. That process happens at 270 degrees Fahrenheit. If I begin to generate that kind of temperature there's one thing that will happen long before the Plexiglas melts: all the water would boil away. Clearly, the melting of the plastic is not an issue. I just added another half teaspoon. We'll see what happens. Also it has been suggested to me that the check valve in my line going to the manifold could be removed to allow a greater flow of HHO. I do have a four foot vacuum line there so I'm pretty clear that there's no danger of getting a spark kicked back into the Electrolyzer, but I'm gong to ask around some more to make very sure about that before I do it. It does make a certain kind of sense after all, but my wife would be pretty angry with me if I blew up the car.-)

There are all kinds of people now letting their creative juices flow - making all kinds of new units. Some of them are pretty interesting - composed of rods and plates, some are larger, and are constructed of new materials. Some are touted as more powerful (and maybe they are), but the one thing that I know for sure is that the original technology, as described in great detail complete with do-it-yourself plans - works. This is where we all must begin to gain a greater understanding of what it is we're dealing with. Harnessing it and playing with it and experimenting with it are exactly the kinds of things that need to be done to lead us all to the next step. Not so many months ago if someone had asked me if water could be ignited I would have laughed at the ridiculous nature of the question. Now that concept is the source of the name of my website. It is the nature of the device that I have added to my car that is without question improving my mileage. The idea that water can, and does, burn is now an obvious truth.

This ongoing exploration and expansion of our technology (something that should have been done over the last 50 years by large automakers), is taking us into a world that has been described by one of my new friends in the water4gas community, Stephanie, as a Silent Storm. We are that storm. We are, as a community of seekers, individually extracting ourselves, our friends, our neighbors, and ultimately our customers from the clutches of Big Oil. Not all at once but a step at a time. Many of us are looking to have this happen within an underlying framework of integrity. Treating one another as fellow travelers rather than competitors we will change more than just the way we fuel our automobiles. We could change the world. It is possible. Certainly as possible as burning water. We are not large corporate entities who have no responsibility to any but their stockholders. We are just people who care about what happens to others. If we each adhere to the truth, as we know it, and keep telling it as long as we know it, and continue to explore how what we're doing can transform the planet into what it was meant to be all all along - we will certainly find that we are doing exactly the right thing at exactly the right moment in time.

To misquote Lao Tzu for my own purposes, "Every journey begins with a single step." Well my friends I believe that we have taken it.

Wednesday, July 2, 2008

Changed Out the Original Electrolyzer

As you can see I've laid these two towers side by side to compare the differences. Naturally, the one on the right is the one that I built and wrapped, and this photo was taken before I installed it in the car. So it's obvious that it is perfectly clean and has no residue on it. The other - is the one that's been in my car for a bit longer than a month and yes it's nasty looking, but more than that - now that I know what I'm actually looking at: there are very few winds of the electrode wire and worse than that I notice that the negative wire is beginning to rust! This means that this wire is not 316L stainless steel. This means that what I've had sort of working in my car was not made properly and was not made using quality materials. I will not divulge the name of the person who sold it to me, rather I will simply encourage everyone to use the best materials and to treat others in the water4gas community as though they were members of your family. This is not only about the integrity of the product - it is also about allowing people to have the best possible experience as they begin to explore this technology. Let's not discourage others through a greater desire to make money than to have people know that this really works.

When my MAP Sensor Enhancer was not working I could not know until Mr Minton informed me of what had happened. The reality that my electrolyzer in all probability has never worked properly is something I had to discover for myself. If I were not moving along in my quest for understanding I might not have made the discovery. I might have gotten discouraged and even given up never knowing that I was so close.

Anyway the new electolyzer is in the car. All of the areas where it might leak (sucking air through the lid or around the electrical posts) have been carefully sealed. I switched out the universal vacuum fitting for a fitting that exactly fits my hoses. The one thing that I've not yet figured out is how much baking soda to use in the electrolyzer with so many more windings. I will find out and report back here.

One other thing: As soon as I put the new Electrolyzer I went ahead and refilled the tank so that I'd be getting a more accurate measurement for the next posting. It amount that I put in was insignificant and I did not recored that mileage.

Also I just put up the new website www.ignitingwater.com where I am selling support products for water4gas.

Saturday, June 28, 2008

Mileage report with the new Enhancer

I'm in that spot again. I want to talk about the incredibly great mileage that I'm getting now that I have placed all of my ducks in a row, however I can't do it! Sure, 23.6 MPG is better than I was doing, but let's face it - I've seen 26. I want 26 again. I want 40!

As most of you must know by now I am fairly persistent, and I'll not let this go until I get what I want. There are certainly enough of you now encouraging me, and telling me that it is possible. Telling me about your Toyota getting mileage that I only dream about. - Thanks a lot. No really, all kidding aside - thank you all.

My thought as I sit here writing this is that I'll go back to the Electrolyzer and put in a new tower with my own windings on it - In the last day I've started producing and selling 1/4" thick towers with notches at the 1/4" so there are nearly twice as many windings apparently producing twice as much HHO so that my car can run leaner. (Thanks to Rod and Steph for cluing me into new info from Ozzie) I expect that I'll have time to do that on Monday.

I feel that I should mention this: The Electrolyzer that I have on my car is not one of the one's that I've made. Rather it is the original one that I bought as a completed item (it has glue on the coils which is obviously something I personally identified as a problem. "Why then," you ask with a look of stunned amazement at my stupidity, "didn't you put one of your own creations on?" - It's a damned good question. I suppose the only real answer is - that I got caught up in the fact that it has worked in the past, and I've been busy: the sales of the towers have taken up a surprising amount of time. More to the point - it didn't occur to me that it might not be delivering the amount of HHO that my car actually needs. (Although that leaves me wondering why it did what it did in the first place.) Nevertheless, I'm now about to remedy that situation.

The way things stand at the moment is that I am in the midst of an experiment, and as it happens I am one of the factors in that experiment. I may well have done something wrong (though I have no idea what) - it might not be my influence at all. I will find out and hopefully this excursion of mine will assist the rest of you.

So one more time I've taken another step. At least it's not a step backward as some others have been, and it's even a slight move forward. Bottom line: I want a giant step forward. Don't we all?

Also I want to add a quick note about the towers: one of my clients let me know that when he was wrapping the electrode wires on one of the 1/8" thick versions he cracked it in half. This is the first and only incidence of this that I know about. I have replaced it with a 1/4" version at my expense. All I can say is that I have personally wrapped about 20 of these things without problem and I expect that it may be as simple as my having a lighter touch. In the last day I've also replaced one of the 1/4" towers - it broke in the mail. What the Post office needed to do to make that happen is almost beyond belief. I guess that I'm just saying that things happen and I will always stand behind my products. If you think that you might be very strong or just want to wrap wires really tight - go for the 1/4" towers.

See you next time I fill up - or before if I think of something really profound to say. - Yeah right.

One last thing waterxfuel is soon to become ingitingwater. Watch for it.

Tuesday, June 24, 2008

I just put the new MAP Enhancer in.

The wait is over and I've got the new Enhancer in place. I asked for and received the following instruction on how to set up the City side of the Enhancer: When connecting the Enhancer be sure the dials are set to "0". Once you have it installed, turn the lower switch to "Enhanced" and the upper switch to "City". Then slowly turn the "City" dial until your engine starts to sputter, then turn the dial back 1/4 turn. I expect that this will come in handy for anyone going down this path.

ADDED NEXT DAY: I also asked for and received the following information on how to set the Highway side of the Enhancer:
The Highway setting is for speeds above 40 mph. Match the HWY Dial to your City setting. After reaching a speed of 40 mph, switch to your dial to HWY and lean it out until your comfortable with your setting. Be careful and do this slowly. You don't want your engine to die at that speed. Also remember, when you want to pass or go up a steep incline, switch your lower switch to Factory so you will have all the power you need. Good info for all.

As I said in the last post I waited to fill up until I got the new gadget, so here are the results - as you can see I didn't do as badly as I'd expected since this works out to 22.9 MPG - (lets call it 23 why don't we) which is nearly couple of miles-per beyond my norm. This was obtained with the Oxygen Sensor Spacer installed as well as the HHO Generator. I suppose if I'd done the battery trick I would have done even better. It just occurred to me, (as I wrote that last line) that I didn't do it when I did the install - so I promise to go out and do it in a little while so that everything starts from an even base.

Wish me luck since my luck will also be yours...

Wednesday, June 18, 2008

How to Wrap the Electrode Wires


So yeah. I know that my hands drift out of the screen a few times, but I think that the video is good enough for the time being. I promise to redo it - soon. In the meanwhile please use it and see if it doesn't help you to figure this process out. Personally, I believe in a hands on approach and everyone would best be served by grabbing up a tower and going for it. The worst that could possibly happen would be that you'd do it wrong and have to start over again.

What follows is a copy/paste of a text description of wrapping the electrode wires that I wrote out for one of my clients: at the top of the assembled tower run the first wire through one of the holes there. Do this from the top down so that the looped end (to be attached to the electrode post) is at the top with enough room to make the connection to the post. Begin wrapping the wire - beginning by dropping down a couple of notches. Continue to wrap - skipping every other notch until you reach the bottom where you will push the end of that wire into one of the holes there - and give it a good bend to keep it in place. Repeat the process with the other wire - in the opposite hole on the top and placing it into the notches that you skipped before.. Just remember you're winding in the same direction as the first wire.

Hopefully, between the video (even flawed as it is) and the description you'll find this part of the process relatively easy.

Everyone please feel free to comment, ask questions or make suggestions. - you know the rules:-)

Tuesday, June 17, 2008

How to assemble the two parts of the tower.




Several people who've purchased the uniquely designed electrolyzer towers from me - have asked how to put the two pieces together, so I've cooked up a little flick (very short) to show just how it's done. When I have a few moments to produce my next extravaganza - I will also upload a video demonstrating how to properly lay in the electrode wires. I hope that this is helpful.

Anyone interested in purchasing towers can just look over at the the sidebar on the right of this blog to see how to do that. Or just write to me at waterxfuel@gmail.com with: how many you want - the thickness you want (1/8 or 1/4 inch) - and the state you live in.

Monday, June 16, 2008

I hate to say this, but...

As I've mentioned before I do feel a desire to lie at times like these. I want this to work. When it does work I'm totally jazzed about it. I don't want to report that I'm having a problem. I want to inflate the figures so that this technology will appear to be working better than the results that I am currently experiencing would indicate, but I'm not going to do it! The reality is what it is. As you can see I got approximately 19.6 MPG. Again this is less than I get with no enhancement of any kind. Am I frustrated? YES! Will I give up? No because the fact is that I've seen it work with my own eyes and I expect to see it again. Clearly, I'm doing something wrong and I will get the information that I need to do it right. I happen to be a very persistent person.

In the light of the above I've posted the following in the W4G forum: Ok now I'm totally baffled. I have the MAP Enhancer installed, and can actually hear the difference when switching between "Factory" and "Enhanced." I have a spacer in the upstream Oxygen sensor. I've reduced the amount of baking soda in the electrolyzer to 3/4 tsp. I've made sure that my vacuum lines are as open as possible (cut back the "T's" and reamed them out) - And my mileage is back to 19 MPG! Remember that without any H.H.O. device I was getting 21 MPG... I don't mind being the guinea pig, but I'm actually wasting fuel at a time when that should be considered to be a sin.

I will post the answers here and I will peruse any viable solution and post those results as well. BTW - I filled the tank before hitting the highway yesterday and the round trip was 22.6 miles. At this point I don't know if there was a gain of any kind, but I just thought I'd let you know that that mileage will be included when I post the next results.

UPDATE (a few hours later): I just received this answer to my query:
I hope you don't mind me putting in my $0.27 (inflation). I've followed your posts and you see saw mpg's and frankly, I'm (almost) baffled also. The almost is the reason for this letter. That and the fact that I agree about wasting gas should almost be a crime. Of course, some experimentation is justifyable.

So, the thing is, I have posted about the lids on the H.H.O. units not sealing well, and was wondering if you have checked for this problem?
Remember, though they might have sealed when installed, the plastic lid has a tendancy to warp with heat. I use a water-proof silicone, "Form-A-Gasket", as I feel that it is flexible enough to "warp" with the lid.
As you know, excess air leaking into the jar would have the same effect as a leaky vacuum line, causing a loss of performance and lower mpg.

I so appreciate this guy - a really forthcoming person who is willing to share what he knows. So I just checked my electrolyzer for leaks and what do you know I found one! I am going to take care of that but I do wonder just a bit if it's so much more air leaking in than the bubbler delivers (which admittedly isn't much). We shall see. I continue to wait for other possible answers...


Friday, June 13, 2008

About That Oxygen Sensor Spacer

Yesterday I made a valiant effort to install the thing and only managed to scrape my knuckles badly enough that they still hurt. It turns out that (at least for my car) you need a special wrench to pull the sensor out. My friend (and mechanic), Louie lent me the tool but the results were as stated above. Today I went back over to his shop and asked him to do the task for me - which he did in quick order and refused to accept payment. It took him all of 10 minutes. Experience and having the correct tool - counts.

So as you know I'd already put in the MAP Enhancer. So as a consequence of my failed attempt at installation - I'd already driven 29.4 miles - when the spacer was actually installed. So - I did drive around a bit with that piece of the puzzle missing, but also felt that I was getting a true gain that would show up with the spacer in or not. What happened next was unexpected but it was something that I noticed immediately upon driving out of Louie's shop: my MAP Enhancer needed to be readjusted to a leaner mixture. There was no doubt that something different was going on. It was unmistakable.

My next posting will contain my newest mileage stats, and for the first time they will reflect some highway driving. We intend to take the kayaks out for a spin tomorrow and will need to get to some interesting location - right? At least something more pristine than the East River.

Thursday, June 12, 2008

Worst Mileage Ever

That's right this works out to 17.7 MPG. I got 4 miles less per gallon than my car gets all on its own! The reasons are clear and they all come back to me: As I posted earlier I could see that the car was not doing as well as it should - but did I disconnect the negative terminal from the battery for half an hour to let the computer reset again? Nope - I didn't want to deal with having to reset the radio stations and the clock. OMG did that lazy attitude come back to bite me in the behind - especially when I just paid more per gallon than ever. Also, I was waiting for the overwhelming heat to go away so that I could install the MAP Sensor Enhancer, so I didn't go in to fill the tank until that was done - meaning that I paid more and and at the same time had to buy more. Sure I knew the cost of gas was going up - because these days it's always going up. All in all - painful.

On the other hand, I did get the Enhancer installed yesterday. Just to be on the safe side of getting things in order, while I did the installation I did disconnect the battery. There was some mention in the instructions that I got of disconnecting the upstream Oxygen sensor - but I couldn't figure out how to do that other than pulling the electrical line off - which amounts to the same thing. Reason: I want to put the spacer on and I'm waiting until I talk to my mechanic to see if he can tell me how to do that without wrecking it. (I'll report later on that.)

What I did do was get the MAP Enhancer online and working! As you might surmise - I am fairly well proud of myself. Choosing the correct wire seemed a real problem but once I got it - I got it. I can tell that it's doing what it's supposed to do by a very simple test. First I followed the directions for tuning it and found that spot for my car that works best. Then, while the car was sitting at an idle I flicked the setting from Enhanced to Factory. There is a very noticeable difference in the engine. It is unmistakable. I did it right. I expect that that difference will show up the next time I fill up ( and I won't be waiting so long until I do that - because I'm dying to see the results). It's all I can do to keep myself from just going out and driving around, but I'm really not all that willing to demonstrate how stupid I can be:-)

Another thing that I did while I was installing the Enhancer is that I took another look at the "T" connection for the vacuum lines connected to the Electrolyzer - I noticed that one of them appeared to be loose. It was - which certainly may be responsible for the terrible mileage. I just don't know. Still, I took a close look and realized that the Universal T is designed in a way that each end narrows further and further so that it can accept all sizes of lines. What this means is that for my car I had lines that didn't need to be as small at the ends as these were - so I cut them off with wire cutter and reamed them clean with an Exact-o blade. What this should mean is that I will get more vacuum pulling the HHO into the manifold.

I'm realizing more and more that each little thing is important. As always I'm learning at each step and with any luck you will be able to avoid the pitfalls through my missteps.

Tuesday, June 10, 2008

I'm getting to it...

The fact is that even though I have the equipment I don't have a place in the shade to work in and sad but true the heat is too much to deal with. Out in it for ten minutes and literally felt nauseous! Generally I love the heat, but this is beyond anything. They say that it'll cool down later tonight, so tomorrow looks like the install day. Looked in the package and realized that I'd only ordered 1 Oxygen Sensor Spacer even though I knew I needed 2! Rats. I have the other one on order. I will install the one I have along with putting in the MAP Enhancer. Once I have those on the car I'll go put gas in it and I can tell that I've been wasting gas on this run. Hopefully my mistakes and falters will help the rest of you to avoid those things... Maybe not. Anyway, I'll report again as soon as I get things in order.